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27-11-2007 06:54 PM
#1033
I'm posting a short review in response to aaronng's findings on the re001.
I had them installed recently... 2 months back.
First thing i noticed was the grip and noise levels were much improved over the T1Rs or G3s i was using previously. Lateral grip was pretty good in the dry and surprisingly good in the wet. When the rear starts to slide, the feedback is pretty good.. and its quite easy to correct the oversteer, weirdly though, it doesnt make any noise or squeal when it slides.
I have also noticed that the steering, when its centre +/- 5 degrees, lacks any sort of feedback or resistance. I had initially thought my steering rack had abit of "play", but after checking the tie rod ends have ruled that out.
What got me worried though, was that in the first 2 weeks of driving on the freeway, the car would veer eratically (in minute amounts) when going round long bends or sometimes even straights, behaving as though strong crosswinds were blowing the car.
This behaviour has pretty much disappeared with use... and i assume its the oil film from the factory. Either that, or i've gotten used to it... hope not.
Otherwise, its a pretty solid tyre for what it costs.
I paid 165 a corner for 195/55/15 with nitrogen @ 35psi.
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27-11-2007 07:04 PM
#1034
 Originally Posted by quenjose
What got me worried though, was that in the first 2 weeks of driving on the freeway, the car would veer eratically (in minute amounts) when going round long bends or sometimes even straights, behaving as though strong crosswinds were blowing the car.
I've got a similar "veer" with my RE55s but mine could be put down to camber and toe out as it only happens in a straight line. The only thing is it never happened with my Michelin Pilots. I just rule it as cold tyres as RE55s need quite a bit of heat to be effective.
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27-11-2007 07:48 PM
#1035
I haven't had the RE001 veer on straights. The only one I found is that it is dead off centre and around long bends where you hold the steering wheel at just the right angle, there is a knife edge of difference between dead steering and super steering response. I've already done 1200km on them, and they are still doing the same thing. I reckon it's the soft sidewall and the tread design. I also have S02s which are a softer compound but doesn't have this problem.
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27-11-2007 09:19 PM
#1036
If anything, i'd probably put it down to the thread block...
i've used tyres with much softer sidewalls, but never really encountered anything like that before.
Monty, i not sure if u're veering is the same experience, because i've driven cars with some serious camber, the veering experienced in such cars would be felt as feedback or bump in your steering wheel...
whereas the "veering" i'm describing, the feedback in the steering is somewhat dead as what aaronng has described... only happens at a certain degree of bend at highway speeds, and u do NOT feel it in the steering wheel... as if the steering rack suddenly went loose, or too describe it in a weird way, its like the front tyres went over a puddle of oil, and you lost traction for a moment.
my friend has spoken to the bridgestone guys about it as he has the same tyres on, and they attribute it to the way the tyres track. The way he put it was, the tyres are biased to track really straight...
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28-11-2007 06:47 AM
#1037
 Originally Posted by quenjose
If anything, i'd probably put it down to the thread block...
i've used tyres with much softer sidewalls, but never really encountered anything like that before.
Monty, i not sure if u're veering is the same experience, because i've driven cars with some serious camber, the veering experienced in such cars would be felt as feedback or bump in your steering wheel...
whereas the "veering" i'm describing, the feedback in the steering is somewhat dead as what aaronng has described... only happens at a certain degree of bend at highway speeds, and u do NOT feel it in the steering wheel... as if the steering rack suddenly went loose, or too describe it in a weird way, its like the front tyres went over a puddle of oil, and you lost traction for a moment.
my friend has spoken to the bridgestone guys about it as he has the same tyres on, and they attribute it to the way the tyres track. The way he put it was, the tyres are biased to track really straight...
This brings us back to my original question; what really makes a 'good' tyre? I certainly wouldn't be happy with a tyre that behaved as these Bridgestones are being described.
Its not all about grip, we could fit drag slicks and paint them in super-glue, they'd be grippy but the handling would be abysmal. IMO, for a street tyre the handling characteristics are far more important than the degree of absolute neck straining grip. Great grip is nice to have, bit ultimately it's handling that makes a car a pleasure to drive on the steet!
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28-11-2007 06:50 AM
#1038
With my next tyre, I would want to have very good straight line traction. At the moment mine handle well, but they like to wheelspin alot.
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28-11-2007 09:54 AM
#1039
lool, with a b20 in a crx ull prob still get wheel spin on the straight even if u had semi slicks
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28-11-2007 01:21 PM
#1040
Not necessarily. as long as I have more traction than I have now I'll be happy. It's not like I'm pushing extreme amounts of power or anything.
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30-11-2007 10:18 AM
#1041
 Originally Posted by quenjose
If anything, i'd probably put it down to the thread block...
i've used tyres with much softer sidewalls, but never really encountered anything like that before.
Monty, i not sure if u're veering is the same experience, because i've driven cars with some serious camber, the veering experienced in such cars would be felt as feedback or bump in your steering wheel...
whereas the "veering" i'm describing, the feedback in the steering is somewhat dead as what aaronng has described... only happens at a certain degree of bend at highway speeds, and u do NOT feel it in the steering wheel... as if the steering rack suddenly went loose, or too describe it in a weird way, its like the front tyres went over a puddle of oil, and you lost traction for a moment.
my friend has spoken to the bridgestone guys about it as he has the same tyres on, and they attribute it to the way the tyres track. The way he put it was, the tyres are biased to track really straight...
not sure if its the same problem, but i experienced a similar sort of veering since i switched to the re001s. steering response was less floaty since the swap since i was going from really crappy tyres to the adrenalins, but the steering response aroud the centre of the wheel is a little loose, but its tolerable.
the veering i experience with mine is a little bump steering, and then suddenly no response from the tyre at all regardless of how i jerk the wheel. normally would happen to my front left wheel. i figured the bump steering would probably be due to the tyres responding more than the shite i had on before (going from 14s to 15s, high profile crappy tyres to adrenalins in low profile). is this the kinda veering you were experiencing? or completely different?
i've managed to corner mine down to a really worn shock that locks up occasionally, as i get the bump steering and then the veering at street speeds of 60km/h. altho i've heard that ED6 civics had a shite steering rack so thats probably half the reason steering feel is dull in my car.
Current Performance Modifications to ED6:
not telling, but it involves a semi-quad carb setup, and lots and lots of compression.
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30-11-2007 06:51 PM
#1042
Haven't read through the thread but I'm pretty sure there is nothing on them
I am looking for Personal experience with Bridgestone Adrenalin RE001
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30-11-2007 06:59 PM
#1043
 Originally Posted by yellow-dc2
Haven't read through the thread but I'm pretty sure there is nothing on them
I am looking for Personal experience with Bridgestone Adrenalin RE001
There are HEAPS!!! SEARCH THIS THREAD FOR "RE001"! I have my personal experience, and EG30 did a very nice comparison between the RE001 and S.Drive. Don't be lazy.
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30-11-2007 10:52 PM
#1044
Hmm.. the recent comments about RE001 having veering effects and dead-on-centre feel is making me reconsider about getting them.
Is it bad enough to avoid this tyre or do the positives still outweight the negatives?
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