James Race Engines - help needed

**EGB18CT** · 10-01-2008 06:23 PM

I know james engineered his turbo b16 motor and went thru epa testing and passed all so im assuming that if you do that there should be no problem getting them registered, ive got the gsr motor from japan in my car now but its not registered and i believe to get it engineered its about 700 thru rowan at cartech (more for epa tesing and such) a few engineered wanted like 2k and didnt really know what they were doing saying ill need full epa testing because they didnt know the emissions overseas but if i could prove that the jdm motor was like the USDM or AUDM or better emission then it wont need the testing. Obviously the turbo ill need to do what james did. Ill have to go see him one day just been busy as hell and dont want to waste his time just asking a few questions as the project wont be all done in one hit etc... im carefully planning this trying to find out what works from people in the past.

thanks for you info guys.
IEVAQ-8 mite have to meet up one day get those bearings off ya again lol now that im back onto this project!

**IEVAQ8** · 10-01-2008 06:27 PM

lol.............for sure....if u wanted to this weekend my mate is wroking in spare parts on saturday and he would be more than happy to order them all for ya..........
othger wise let me know when ur ready and we will definatle meet up and organise it

**panda[cRx]** · 10-01-2008 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by EGB18CT

I know james engineered his turbo b16 motor and went thru epa testing and passed all so im assuming that if you do that there should be no problem getting them registered, ive got the gsr motor from japan in my car now but its not registered and i believe to get it engineered its about 700 thru rowan at cartech (more for epa tesing and such) a few engineered wanted like 2k and didnt really know what they were doing saying ill need full epa testing because they didnt know the emissions overseas but if i could prove that the jdm motor was like the USDM or AUDM or better emission then it wont need the testing. Obviously the turbo ill need to do what james did. Ill have to go see him one day just been busy as hell and dont want to waste his time just asking a few questions as the project wont be all done in one hit etc... im carefully planning this trying to find out what works from people in the past.

thanks for you info guys.
IEVAQ-8 mite have to meet up one day get those bearings off ya again lol now that im back onto this project!

ask blkcrx how much he spent on getting his car legal.... from what i heard back in the day it was a fair chunk of coin

**mrfsport** · 10-01-2008 07:25 PM

As weg said, get it done through the US, Golden Eagle, JG and others.
Also try this site http://drive.to/dhracing

Weg what do you mean by someone good to tune it. ie Not dave
Ive also heard some bad refrences about dave's tuning, go to someone like maztech or james

Originally Posted by Weq

Get everything shipped directly from the states. Dont even bother as no australian machine shop has the knowledge or machinary to do what you want.

Its a pretty simple forumla. By everything from the US, bolt-on and get someone good to tune it. ie Not dave!!

**grumpy rooster** · 10-01-2008 08:39 PM

Having the engine built here in Oz is not a stupid idea. I am able to source all the parts for you (as could many other people) and then get a reputable engine builder to build it. I would start with THIS block. Its a Dart aluminium block with 84.5mm bores and steel main caps. You also have the option of the B20 block. The most important aspect of that particular block is it is a closed deck design.

My one big problem with what you want to do is your budget. For that power your budget may take a bit of a hammering.

**Benson** · 10-01-2008 08:45 PM

I agree with grumpy rooster. Its good to have the engine built here and get bits and peices from the states. The states do make very nice products and is of much better quality than Australia.

There are a few quality Honda engine builders here in Australia. Do your research and go from there.

Oh BTW, that blkcrx guy, what 1/4mile has it ran?

Remember power isnt everything, chasis set-up is equally important!.

**EG5** · 10-01-2008 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Benson

I agree with grumpy rooster. Its good to have the engine built here and get bits and peices from the states. The states do make very nice products and is of much better quality than Australia.

There are a few quality Honda engine builders here in Australia. Do your research and go from there.

Oh BTW, that blkcrx guy, what 1/4mile has it ran? or is it a dyno queen which some people have been saying?

Remember power isnt everything, chasis set-up is equally important!.

11.6@129mph

**fatboyz39** · 10-01-2008 09:31 PM

you'll need about 600-800hp in a fairly light car to be into 10's.

You mention sleeved to 94mm (ERL or Benson spec) for a b18c block? wtf 94mm sleeves?

There's a few good honda engine builders/tuners in Australia. No need to do eveyrthing in US.

**fatboyz39** · 10-01-2008 09:34 PM

Seen that red CRX that runs 9's? Running STOCK b16a sleeves with rods/pistons. Its other bits and pieces.

**EGB18CT** · 10-01-2008 10:04 PM

shit i ment 84mm typo, suspension stuff is no problems in that area atm and the car will be stripped, i just want to run some decent MPH at the track, i want the setup to be capable of around 140mph.

So far im leaning to getting it build over in the states or getting james to do it and the block sleeved somewhere. Thats my main issue is the machine shops here making nice sleeved blocks using the proper tools that make perfect blocks that dont drop sleeves.\

If i was to get it sleeved here what people would you recommend, otherwise ill go with ERL or Bensons.

**EGB18CT** · 10-01-2008 10:09 PM

also i know power isnt everything initally i was going to go k24 na but it wouldnt get me where i want to be, so k24 turbo or k20 but they would produce too much torque making it difficult to put the power down. So ill stick to my b18c, make use of its lower end tq so traction is easier, and work on all the rod to stroke ratios and make it rev to make use of a big turbos top end spool.