Double DIN for Euro?

[EuroSteve]

is the g4 a multi CD stacker?

Looks nice, can't wait to see the finished look.

It's not a multi CD stacker, but it does have a DVD (~= 6 CD's) drive and a 40GB (upgradable) hard drive for playing MP3/WMA/AAC/FLAC, etc

CD's are soo yesterday ;-P

S.

[KenL]

Hey EuroSteve,

Sounds like a good project - a bit off topic but I'd be interested in how you end up integrating the G4 with the OEM audio system (or run the two systems in parallel?).

Stuff like:

• You gonna integrate with the AUX input on the OEM system using line-outs or use the amplified outputs on the G4 itself out to your speakers? (btw - anybody know how to enable the AUX feature on an OEM system without MP3 option?)
• Will you integrate volume etc. controls on steering wheel with G4? I know it comes with a remote, but would be neat if you could still use steering controls to at least adjust volume.
• You running separate monitor(s) for DVD, GPS, engine management etc.?

Was planning a custom jobbie in '08 using the compact VIA motherboards (yup, I have geeky roots!) but this product seems to be a comparatively neater solution for a few extra $$$. Feel free to PM if not relevant here...

Anyhoo, hope the install goes well.

[one4spl]

Feel free to PM if not relevant here...

Please keep it in this thread, I'm interested too!

[EuroSteve]

(I'll keep it all in this thread, but if a mod is listening, maybe alter the thread title to something like "Double DIN for Euro? (installing an Infill G4)")

Hey EuroSteve,

Sounds like a good project - a bit off topic but I'd be interested in how you end up integrating the G4 with the OEM audio system (or run the two systems in parallel?).

To be honest, I hadn't really planned out this project all that well. Initially the idea was for the G4 to feed into the OEM audio system's AUX In (via this adapter http://car2pc.com/products.html and a Line Output Converter (The G4 doesn't have line level outputs).

However, during my research I got distracted by after market speakers and amps, and ended up ordering some. So now the OEM system really isn't needed.

Stuff like:[*]You gonna integrate with the AUX input on the OEM system using line-outs or use the amplified outputs on the G4 itself out to your speakers? (btw - anybody know how to enable the AUX feature on an OEM system without MP3 option?)

Now that i've got an amp. and speakers coming, there's really no need for the OEM system. The audio quality from the G4 is pretty good, I expected worse since computers generate alot of EMI and on-board audio codecs are never really that good, but I was pleasently surprised. If you put your ear to the speakers, you can hear a very small amount of hiss and noise when the HDD is working, but for your average user, it's very good. (Mind you, this is all still on the bench. I'm not sure how the G4 will handle the noise inside the Euro's dash...)

For me, the audio quality is not quite good enough given the $$ i'm spending on speakers and the amp. (Boston SPZ60's & Alpine PDX-4.150). I plan to hook up an external USB sound card (for eg. something like http://www.mixvibes.com/new/pageeng/page.php?x=mvu46mk2). I plan to fit the sound card near the amp. (since USB can run a good distance with no loss) and then run short RCA leads to the amp. I'm hoping this will minimise noise.

There are quite a few Aux In adapters that will work with the Euro, check out this thread -> http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81810. I think most of those have iPod interfaces also.

[*]Will you integrate volume etc. controls on steering wheel with G4? I know it comes with a remote, but would be neat if you could still use steering controls to at least adjust volume.

I choose the Car2PC adapter since it gives me access to the commands on the steering wheel at a software level. However, the G4 does have a remote wire designed to interface with resistive-ladder type steering wheel controls (which the Euro has), so i'll probably just end up using that and have no need for the Car2PC.

[*]You running separate monitor(s) for DVD, GPS, engine management etc.?

At this stage, i'll just be using the G4's screen. The G4 does have composite video out though, so a 2nd screen could be an option later on.

Was planning a custom jobbie in '08 using the compact VIA motherboards (yup, I have geeky roots!) but this product seems to be a comparatively neater solution for a few extra $$$. Feel free to PM if not relevant here...

Anyhoo, hope the install goes well.

It took me a while to finally decide on the G4. One part of me wanted to build the whole CarPC from scratch, but with the G4, there's nothing that beats its factory finish look and form factor.

If I can get all the bits in time, i've earmarked the Australia Day long weekend for the big install!

Will keep you guys posted on how it all goes!

S.

[KenL]

Thanks for the detailed response mate - much appreciated . Agree the G4 is much 'cleaner' than the usual custom options.

Interesting about the info on the resistive lead for volume control on the G4 (could save some $$$ for others like me planning on doing similar!) - didn't know that was available given the G4 info on the web. I think I saw a wiring diagram for the Euro's OEM system somewhere on this forum... So short of buying a workshop manual, I'd be interested to see if you actually ended up using the Car2PC interface...

Regarding the extra screen - I'm now planning to use the area above the centre air vents for an extra screen - I didn't know there was space until one4spl included the pics (thanks!). Wonder if anybody has experience in this area and know of any kits? Ahhh, something to fill in the time at work tomorrow...

Now I just need to convince the missus that this is what the baby bonus should be used on... my kids will love watching Wiggles in the car in a couple of years... surely yeah? hahaha

Thanks for keeping us posted - looking forward to your end results and any other advice!

[aka_NSX]

Now I just need to convince the missus that this is what the baby bonus should be used on... my kids will love watching Wiggles in the car in a couple of years... surely yeah? hahaha

you are right the kids love watching the wiggles but you have to remember you will have to stuck with wiggles everytime the kids are in the car, thats what she does to me now, I never got any chance at all to listen to my own music ....... but still its good to keep the kids quite

BTW I have already done this long time ago for a friend, I reckon thats the only way to do it properly if you want to install double din

[r-r-redEuro]

BTW I have already done this long time ago for a friend, I reckon thats the only way to do it properly if you want to install double din

sorry to bring up the old thread, how big is this double din bracket ? would it fit a 7" screen in ? or does it have to be smaller ?

[joycetick]

jb_buzz, why not connect it straight to the battery since its only a couple more centimeters away. headunits can draw a fair bit of power, especially with subs which could blow the fuse for that wire your tapping into.
Also, wouldnt connecting straight to the battery will give you a better connection anyway?

I dont see any benefits by connecting to that live wire except for saving a few cm of cable
btw i havnt installed an aftermarket sterio before, so you might want to wait for someone else to confirm/correct me

r-r-redEuro, din is a standard size across all vehicles

if your talking about molding a screen that would normally stick to the dash/window with a sunction cap, its just right for a 7" widescreen, although different manufactorers can have varying case dimensions (im pritty sure the lilliput 619 is one of the monitors that fit)

otherwise any double din stereo units from pioneer/other simmilar brands (like in the picture) will fit

[Atjo]

sorry to bring up the old thread, how big is this double din bracket ? would it fit a 7" screen in ? or does it have to be smaller ?

It can fit 7" but the width is a bit wider so there's a gap on the side but they provide you with a foam to fill the gap. I will install my double din headunit this weekend.

[EuroSteve]

Interesting about the info on the resistive lead for volume control on the G4 (could save some $$$ for others like me planning on doing similar!) - didn't know that was available given the G4 info on the web. I think I saw a wiring diagram for the Euro's OEM system somewhere on this forum... So short of buying a workshop manual, I'd be interested to see if you actually ended up using the Car2PC interface...

I picked up a manual for $10 of eBay, worth every cent! See http://cgi.ebay.com/HONDA-Accord-Eur...QQcmdZViewItem

Here's the wiring diagram for the audio system, you can see the resistive-ladder network for the steering wheel controls.


S.

[aaronng]

It's not a multi CD stacker, but it does have a DVD (~= 6 CD's) drive and a 40GB (upgradable) hard drive for playing MP3/WMA/AAC/FLAC, etc

CD's are soo yesterday ;-P

S.

Wonder how long the hard drive would last with my Tein Flex and crappy Sydney roads....

[EuroSteve]

Wonder how long the hard drive would last with my Tein Flex and crappy Sydney roads....

You raise a good point, and really, only time will tell. The hard drive in the G4 is rubber mounted (good soft neoprene rubber), but I still think enough vibration would kill it.

One idea is to replace the internal hard disk with a Compact Flash card (+ IDE Adapter). CF cards are up to something like 8GB now (heaps of room for the OS, etc) and you could then mount an external USB hard drive in a more vibration friendly manner to store your music, etc.

S.