Does you euro have drift to one side tendency?

[aaronng]

Had my wheel aligned today. Car seems to go straighter now. no more drifting.

But now the steering doesn't return after a turn like it used to, ie. i have to actively turn it back to get the car going straight. I almost went around a round-about twice. Does everyone elses Euro's steering return or not?

It's because they set it to toe in.

the print out of the alignment showed my Front toe was -1.4mm on the left and -2.0mm on the right. and Rear toe was -0.1mm on the right. That was all that needed to be adjusted. after adjustment, it was +0.4mm on left and +0.1mm on right at the front, and +0.6mm at right rear.

They put the front toe inwards because that improves straight line stability and reduces pulling to the side when on cambered roads.

They also flipped the 1 tyre on the rim. I wonder why this was done.

Probably because that tyre was worn on one edge.

another warning on the printout was my rear camber. it is -1.74 on left and -0.49 on right. they said the rear camber wasn't adjustable.

Only way to get that adjustable is with an ingalls camber kit.

[LXRY]

Just an update on the drifting problems Honda facing........

It seems honda CRV doing the same thing, worldwide.

Just one link of the many I have read, Honda seems to be blaming Bridgstone tyres...pffft, what a joke.

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f14721a

Mine still pulling to the right, excessevily under right camber * rubs his right sore shoulder.

[tony1234]

Just an update on the drifting problems Honda facing........

It seems honda CRV doing the same thing, worldwide.

Just one link of the many I have read, Honda seems to be blaming Bridgstone tyres...pffft, what a joke.

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f14721a

Mine still pulling to the right, excessevily under right camber * rubs his right sore shoulder.

What tyres do you have LXRY?Re:suspension setup,you have pretty much what i have,same drop,camber kit(i have Bilstein shocks) same springs as you(Eibach).I now have 32K,still on the Continentals and NO drifting at all.

[cgspot]

That is the question.
If Honda admit that it is the tyre then why did they supply me with two new Bridgestone tyres after much ado?
This however did rectify the issue for a while, then it surfaced again.
At the next service the dealer did something which stopped the car pulling to the right, but now the stearing wheel does not actually come back to center, it has a constant angle to the right while cruising straight and there is more resistance turning left than turning right.
Me ... I'm annoyed, first time Honda owner and really upset with the follow up action for this problem.
Love the car very much, but I'm not sure if I'll ever buy another Honda due to the lack of help and the amount of run around I have had to endure.
They still need to fix this problem.

[Suntzu]

I had the issue with my 05 Euro and it was finally fixed by getting a proper tyre place to align it as per my specifications.

I also have a2007 CRV Lux and its has no issue at all with tracking.

[tony1234]

That is the question.
If Honda admit that it is the tyre then why did they supply me with two new Bridgestone tyres after much ado?
This however did rectify the issue for a while, then it surfaced again.
At the next service the dealer did something which stopped the car pulling to the right, but now the stearing wheel does not actually come back to center, it has a constant angle to the right while cruising straight and there is more resistance turning left than turning right.
Me ... I'm annoyed, first time Honda owner and really upset with the follow up action for this problem.
Love the car very much, but I'm not sure if I'll ever buy another Honda due to the lack of help and the amount of run around I have had to endure.
They still need to fix this problem.

IMO it seems to be a combination of tyre 1st.,then car 2nd.as in it has to be set up(aligned) properly by someone who knows what they're doing.

[aaronng]

That is the question.
If Honda admit that it is the tyre then why did they supply me with two new Bridgestone tyres after much ado?

Because if they supply you with any other tyre brand, they would be out of pocket (dealer). Honda probably gives only OEM equipment, and that is the dunlop 2050m for the 16" and bridgestone RE040 for the 17".

[LXRY]

I replaced my tyres with michelins pilot sports ages ago made no difference at all.........less tramlining maybe due too chunkyness of the tread.

After lowering the car pulling right indentical to when it was stock !!

Have had 5 wheel alignments aswell.....yes i did lower my car but got alignment kits for both front and back no change.

After they adjusted frame fixed drifting on straight road but then caused excessive pulling under right camber *rubbing his sore right shoulder.

I spoke to head office Bridgestone where they told me that they had tested the tyres that Honda aust. had sent them and they assured me that nothing wrong with the tyres !!

I also found another service bulletin some of the extremes they are going too to rectify it's unbelievable


http://rapidshare.com/files/89164026...ing_06-068.pdf

Check it out !!

NOT THE TYRES !!!!

[LXRY]

Because if they supply you with any other tyre brand, they would be out of pocket (dealer). Honda probably gives only OEM equipment, and that is the dunlop 2050m for the 16" and bridgestone RE040 for the 17".

I got offered new tyres from Honda Aust. aaronng they told me straight out that "it would not fix the problem"........Quote direct from south eastern service manager himself.


Do the CRV's have the same tyres as euro's ?

[aaronng]

No, CRV gets some half-offroad tyres.

What are your alignment settings (toe and camber) on your car now?

[aaronng]

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I also found another service bulletin some of the extremes they are going too to rectify it's unbelievable


http://rapidshare.com/files/89164026...ing_06-068.pdf

Check it out !!

NOT THE TYRES !!!!

That is just a diagnostic bulletin to help find the cause of pulling. As they said in the bulletin, it's either the tyres or the alignment that causes pulling.

[LXRY]

That is just a diagnostic bulletin to help find the cause of pulling. As they said in the bulletin, it's either the tyres or the alignment that causes pulling.

Yes I agree it is a diagnostic bulletin.....

Bulletins released for this problem :- 3rd June 2005, 3rd October 2006 and 12 January 2007 for the same issue !! Strange ??



I think they released 3 bulletins till now and still got issues aaronng, you'de think they would of fixed this issue by now don't you think ?

I'm no expert but why would you adjust the frame if the tyres are faulty....are the tyres going to be the same all the time if they are faulty or would you have to adjust the frame through the life of the tyres? If the tyres are faulty and only pull one side ONLY....then flip them over and should pull to the left.


Read a thread on this where Honda in Canada/America paid for and installed camber kit through dealership cause they couldn't rectify this problem not lowered either, still didn't fix the issue completely but customer was satisfied cause not as severe as before but still evident.

I challenge anyone who has this problem who have had there tyres changed which fixed the problem to come foward 16" or 17" makes no difference which tyres, although high wall tyres masks this slightly but still evident.

Or maybe it's just me cause after several attempts Honda Dealership still can't get my steering wheel straight..something that should be simple operation. This may be the cause of it all, my steering wheel not straight so i think my car pulls to the right, lmao. (quote bulletin above^^^^)

Honda Aust. offered tyres to me Aaronng I declined as this as quoted by SthEastern Service manager himself admitted this wouldn't rectify the problem

My car a bent lemon....