[Euro] Hondata Update

[Suntzu]

Im doing a complete review in week or so. Im not making any claims till its daily driven.

Going pretty well though. Feel like its got more torque in the 3000-5000rpm band, makes it lets tiring to drive as you dont need to shift as much.

I dont know if track times will tell you a lot because each car is different and has a different driver, but it will give you an approximate if you have a before and after result I guess. Im not going to drag strip mine though.

In summary:

Its smoother throughout the rpm range.
Has a little more torque at lower rpm which transitions in a pretty manic surge from 5000 rpm onwards.
Its easier to drive.
I dont know about fuel yet.
Its slightly quicker to 100kph, im guessing about 0.4 - 0.5 sec.
I dont think you would get much from the mild flash without at LEAST a proper intake. The car needs more air, esp with the flash.
The car sounds slightly more Bassy, meatier in the exhaust but that could be a placebo.
The engine sounds the same otherwise. Not any louder than normal. In fact if I didnt have an angry elephant stuck in my Fujita you would never know.

I would expect the extreme to be similar to this but to have more of everything in these areas. At least i hope it will for the money.

Re: Last night. I was a bit harsh, I'd had a few beers, but i stand by what I say and that is there a few people here that expect this and that and a bit more but have are not prepared to actually commit to doing anything themselves and then bitch on when they dont like what they hear. Thats not personal, its a relevant and accurate observations. If you get your knickers in a knot then sux to be you.

[johnprocter]

thats fair enough your brave mate for giving it a go first and thanks for the review

[johnprocter]

The harmonics within the car are way down, it appears it was the header pipes vibrating against each other underneath the crossmember. A lot better outside too now, must have been also affecting the sound level at the mufflers.
Should be heaps better with the final production headers which are 15mm longer on the vertical to clear the crossmember more, as mine are vibrating occasionally depending on revs and gradient.

Just did a accurate check of a tank of mixed highway and town driving, averaged 8.2L/100k's.

wtf 8.2 i dont even get that with a stock euro LOL iam lucky to get 12's

[tony1234]

Look forward to the report Suntzu.

[tinkerbell]

wtf 8.2 i dont even get that with a stock euro LOL iam lucky to get 12's

that is terrible. are you sure you dont have a MAJOR problem with your car?

[Merlin086]

wtf 8.2 i dont even get that with a stock euro LOL iam lucky to get 12's

When I was testing it thoroughly when it was first installed, with lots of "spirited" driving on country roads, I was getting mid 11's/100k's.


The biggest difference with the extreme is all the torque down low, so I tend to drive in 5th gear around town, as it is happy in 5th down to 30kph.

6th still needs 80kph minimum to have reasonable acceleration, but way better than before at 100k's.

Glad I don't live in a big city coz that's got to cost about 4L/100k's, all that stationary time at traffic lights, and frequent starts............

[tony1234]

wtf 8.2 i dont even get that with a stock euro LOL iam lucky to get 12's

Do you have man.or auto?

[johnprocter]

auto why what diff does it make i get about 480km out of a full tank and i never even turn air con on..

[tony1234]

auto why what diff does it make i get about 480km out of a full tank and i never even turn air con on..

Man.cars always get better fuel economy than autos.high 10s i think is typical for an auto.BTW i've got a manual and i get high 8s in city driving.someone here with an auto should be able to give you a better idea.

[tinkerbell]

my mate (05 Euro manual) gets 600-750 per tank with air con all the time, VTEC often...

plus he has Injen CAI...

recently he got 7.8l/100 on a trip to Forbes...

but i didnt think auto would be THAT much worse!

[aaronng]

auto why what diff does it make i get about 480km out of a full tank and i never even turn air con on..

Autos drink more for sure. Especially for the Euro. I get 10.5L/100km city driving and 7.1L/100km pure highway for the manual. A friend with the auto does about 12L/100km city.

[BiLL|z0r]

I get about 10.5-11L/100km in my 05 Std Auto. That's vtecing about 3-8 times a tank and mainly city driving. If I do mainly highway driving I get about 9. If I do all highway driving I get about 7. I could get as high as 12 if I reved off at the lights, late braked and generally acted like a dick (which we all do from time to time).
But anyway, this should be in the fuel consumption thread.