Warning Lights

**Pumped** · 14-02-2008 12:25 PM

Power wise it went like a dog, wouldnt rev out and didnt make much power over like 3,500 rpm

Fuel consumption was pretty bad, ended up replacing it with a sensor from a written off euro after pricing how much honda wanted for an o2 sensor lol :-|

**TEMPTN** · 14-02-2008 12:42 PM

ohh strange mine still hits vtec but with a diffrent tune more deeper and louder for some reason
and more responisve than its been in the last few days

**EuroDude** · 14-02-2008 01:09 PM

^ perhaps VTC is locked wide open at 25degrees lol

**TEMPTN** · 14-02-2008 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by EuroDude

^ perhaps VTC is locked wide open at 25degrees lol

lol wtf
is that a good thing or a bad thing?
but i do hear it closing when i switch the engine off lol

**EuroDude** · 14-02-2008 01:41 PM

Permanently advancing the CAM at 25 degrees is probably not a good thing. Fuel efficiency and idle would be out of whack

**PNR888** · 16-02-2008 03:11 PM

Hi guys, I am not sure if my problem is same as TEMPTN's problem.

My 2003 Euro started to get these above mentioned warning lights coming up while driving Nov 07. It only happened in 4 occasions. The warning lights would go away after I restarted the engine, and the car drove normal at that time.. Had it checked by Dealer just before Xmas 07, the computer they plugged in diagnosed its due to the fuel problem and they clear the data in my car, and reset the car computer. at that time they havnt close the case, and ask me to bring the car back if problem come up again.

Car was good for 4 weeks. Mid Jan 08, the car went crazy, those 3 warning light came up again! At cruising speed, the car vibrate violently when i back off throttle at 6th gear (80 -110kmh), even just slight back off (foot not completely off the pedal). Its the same feeling you get when u back off throttle at high rev in 1st gear.

The most dangerous thing is the acceleration from stanidng start is VERY VERY slow, the rev goes up as normal, but the car moves very very slow. Take LONG time to reach 60kmh. 60-100kmh acceleration is not too bad.. I found the situation quite dangerous when I have to join busy traffic from stop signs or giveway signs.

on that day, I must have restarted the engine more than 20 times.. almost at every red lights. even after 2 hour dinner stop, the symptoms wouldn't go away.

The funny thing was at the very next day, every is normal..

Warning lights came up again about 7 times between 18/01/08 and valentines day. had 100000km service and problem checked by dealer again on V day. This time they reckon its due to a faulty APP sensor , they dont even know what is APP stand for, but they ordered the only one left in Aust from Melbourne warehouse. my Euro will be off to the dealer again to get that APP sensor replaced.

The service advisor told me they had a Euro in a while ago, the engine completely shut down due to faulty APP sensor. I hope they are right about the diagnosis of my car, and the new APP sensor can solve the problem.

Anyone know what is APP sensor? is that same as O2 sensor? and how does it related to VSA, and all the symptoms my euro has?

No modification done inside engine bay, has 18inch wheels with correct tyre sizes for 2 or 3 years. No lowering down.

Thank god I bought 5 year extended warranty which will cover me til nov this yr.

**euro77** · 17-02-2008 07:51 PM

Quick googling shows APP = Accelerator Pedal Position. Not sure if this is the same case with the euro (or any other car for that matter), but entering "app sensor obd" on google seems to be pointing to the above.

**TEMPTN** · 17-02-2008 10:37 PM

my lights and warning has disapeared now
every thing seems ok so ill see how things go later on
car actually goes better then b4

**tron07** · 18-02-2008 09:04 AM

might be running richer then usual.... thus the additional power

**PNR888** · 19-02-2008 09:45 PM

Had APP sensor replaced by Honda service department yesterday at no charge (under 5 yr extended warranty). Will post again if warning lights reappear or if fuel consumption changes.

**TEMPTN** · 19-02-2008 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by tron07

might be running richer then usual.... thus the additional power

Hmm how can i make t run rich all day every day

**JN7** · 04-03-2009 05:30 PM

hey guys, sorry to dig up an old thread but the same light has appeared on my dashboard.

it goes on from time to time and then off from time to time and it seems as though fuel consumption is shocking because the information bar on the dashboard telling how many Ks you get with your petrol seems to be going quick

can anyone help me out or give some advice about what to do?
thanks