Air intake test AP1 S2000

[.::F[L]Y::.]

I call Bullshit...

care to elaborate?

[Benson]

did he do that with the aem that he said he was gonna do?

Yes the AEM intake was tested.... The result werent' as impressive as the stock airbox with the v-stack set-up. For the best result it the blox air filter set-up with the stock airbox....

I think next will be the test the 68mm t/b with this set-up and see what other gains can be had. So for, on Fly's s2k we pick-up torque and response from the bigger 68mm t/b. With stock t/b and AEM car made 131kw and with the bigger 68mm t/b and AEM it made 137kw... the results are there but we feel the AEM is letting it down. So stay tuned for more intake test onthe s2k.

[TODA AU]

care to elaborate?

First run stock s2k stock air box 125kw atw. Was about right for a stock s2k on that dyno.
Next run, chucked on a blox velocity stack, 6' filter into air box. Closed the air lid. Peak power 135kw atw

The 1st run on an S2000 is always lower than the 2nd then the 3rd. (Mid to high 120's)
4th run, things even out where you see 130~135kw is normal for a bone stock S2k.
It says clearly 1st run as stock, 2nd run with different filter.
Why didn'y you do a test back to back with 4~5 runs each,
Using the best of each?
Further, I bet you didn't use a brand new OEM filter as your comparison either.
The claim of 5~10hp gain across the rev range with only an airfilter change in the std airbox is a big call.
But when the filter it is compared to is dirty, when than that's just misleading.
Further, considering your filter is inside the unmodified std box with the miricle ram tube.
With all the money Honda spent developing this thing, don't you think they would have rather marketed it with 180kw at the fly instead of 176?
Hense, I call Bullshit.

[mrs2k]

The 1st run on an S2000 is always lower than the 2nd then the 3rd. (Mid to high 120's)
4th run, things even out where you see 130~135kw is normal for a bone stock S2k.
It says clearly 1st run as stock, 2nd run with different filter.
Why didn'y you do a test back to back with 4~5 runs each,
Using the best of each?
Further, I bet you didn't use a brand new OEM filter as your comparison either.
The claim of 5~10hp gain across the rev range with only an airfilter change in the std airbox is a big call.
But when the filter it is compared to is dirty, when than that's just misleading.
Further, considering your filter is inside the unmodified std box with the miricle ram tube.
With all the money Honda spent developing this thing, don't you think they would have rather marketed it with 180kw at the fly instead of 176?
Hense, I call Bullshit.

quoted for the truth, thats pretty big gains

[WhiteAP1]

Im with TODA. 10 extra wheel KWs from a filter, im a little more than sceptical. If those are the figures you got from the test,(cant see images) its most likely due to other variable factors IMO.

[<4n'D>]

10kw atw... sounds like what you get from changing i/h/e instead of just intake...

but if results can be substantiated, i'd be sold

[Benson]

We have done this to help people chose their mod wisely and all you guys do is accused the result.

If you dont accept that just an air filter makes 10kw, then go spend your moeny on mugen or AEM intake system which is 5x extra. The results are there, dyno number cant be made up...

Like seriously, at this rate, we should keep the result to ourselves and be selfish and not share it with other people.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

people can believe what they want. dynosheet is there to look at and use as reference.

however,


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[ludecrs]

*bennjamin edit not needed

I reserve comment on your car here, but I'll make a comment on what you just said.

$10-15K in one of these cars doesn't go far.

One of the local guys up here in QLD is on his 3rd engine transplant now (OEM, replacement OEM, and now going 2.5L).. pistons, Brian Cower cams yada yada yada the full monty - I mean the B Cower stuff alone is $3500 without postage from the US, not including fitment. Its a costly exercise and doesnt come cheap. That's what this car is all about lol.

My comptech & ECU if purchased new would run over $8k+ in this country, and that's prior to any fitment and multiple dyno runs and tunes.

ANother perfect example is WhiteAP1 and his build, as well as the guy in Newcastle with the yellow S, that just spent $8K on replacing his OEM engine recently.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

my comment was directed to toda au.

[<4n'D>]

We have done this to help people chose their mod wisely and all you guys do is accused the result.

If you dont accept that just an air filter makes 10kw, then go spend your moeny on mugen or AEM intake system which is 5x extra. The results are there, dyno number cant be made up...

Like seriously, at this rate, we should keep the result to ourselves and be selfish and not share it with other people.

well personally its not like im trying to criticize the result, but adrian from toda has extensive knowledge of these things and has made some very valid points.

i'm not narrow minded to believe that a mugen, injen, spoon etc intake system would necessarily perform better than this because in itself the stock intake system is already pretty damn good. in fact it would still be pretty hard to believe that even a 'branded' intake system can pull that kind of figures...

[Benson]

For Toda_Au reference, each test had 2 dyno pulls. The results are from the second pull of each test for consistency.

I guess we can always have an intake test if shown enough interest when Bel garage organise a dyno day. I'll have a chat with the owners at Bel for this... i'll keep you updated.