most likely the Mercury was done in 4th gear that might explain you 17kw loss.
nah it wouldn't... the 3rd gear pull would be like ~3wkw more assuming all things equal...
Originally Posted by Slow96GSR
If 1 person has had bad luck with a product don’t condemn it until you yourself have tested it. Now if 10 pros have tried it and it sucked then I would trust their opinion.
my corolla did 97kw in 4th and 108kw in 3rd gear, it makes quite abit of difference. This was on the same dyno
yeah i was agreeing with you... but his higher 108wkw reading was done on 4th gear at Mercury and his lower 92wkw reading on 3rd gear at the other place was erading lower...
Originally Posted by Slow96GSR
If 1 person has had bad luck with a product don’t condemn it until you yourself have tested it. Now if 10 pros have tried it and it sucked then I would trust their opinion.
yeah i was agreeing with you... but his higher 108wkw reading was done on 4th gear at Mercury and his lower 92wkw reading on 3rd gear at the other place was erading lower...
sorry my bad, yeah his is kinda werid. Don't think a filter will make that much difference
yeah i was agreeing with you... but his higher 108wkw reading was done on 4th gear at Mercury and his lower 92wkw reading on 3rd gear at the other place was erading lower...
lower the gear, lower reading?
"since we're both asian.. I'll look after you and chuck in King Springs with the wheels and tyres for $1050"
nah lower gear higher reading... but as fatboy said it's only 2-5wkw difference due to minor ratio difference depending on car/gearbox...
But this whole gearing thing was one of the things being investigated a long time ago regarding power differences between USA & Aussie dynos... we thought it was because they always dyno 3rd gear... turns out their drivetrain loss is only calculated at around ~15% for fwd whereas we have ours calculated in the vicinity of ~20-25%... but anyway offtopic...
Originally Posted by Limbo
sorry my bad, yeah his is kinda werid. Don't think a filter will make that much difference
maybe... i noticed a huge response difference between a metal mesh pod (like blitz) vs a foam pod (obx) that i had which all FELT zippier on a cai versus an inverted gauze k&n extreme.
Surprisingly air related mods (inc. valvetrain) affects the B-Series drastically in comparison to 4age/sr20.. this would also explain why Honda's are the only ones with a multitude of intake designs like the whale penis, etc....
But yeah not a 17wkw difference... unless he does the dyno at Mercury again we won't really know for sure as it could be that Mercury's was naturally reading high (or vice versa)... his 92wkw at the other dyno would possibly translate to 102wkw at Mercury again at a ~6wkw loss which would support the intake change idea... he also stated above that theres only a noticable power difference and definitely not 17wkw...
Most of us here who drive NA's will know that 17wkw is a huge noticable difference... you would all also agree that even putting an intake on will be noticed by our @rses and their worth anything from 2-8wkw depending on other supporting mods...
Last edited by dsp26; 18-03-2008 at 05:05 PM.
Originally Posted by Slow96GSR
If 1 person has had bad luck with a product don’t condemn it until you yourself have tested it. Now if 10 pros have tried it and it sucked then I would trust their opinion.
oh well new dyno comp on the 30th at different dyno if i can get a spot it will be interesting. This time will be with the filter
i'll keep yous posted and after that might be back off to mercury motorsport and test it their with both filter and no filter
bloody dyno comps what shits me is that i cut a hole in my bumper and mounted a bell mouth in it to feed the intake and it done nothing. oh well at least it looks good imo
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