Skid around corner.

[xiang]

i got scared.. and wee'd a little.

KIDDINGGGGGGGGGGG...

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hmmm... i guess i wont be trying anymore until i get rid of those 2050Ms

[Suntzu]

MY 05 euro is VERY stable. I have had the VSA correct a few slides very effectively.

In a recent wheels handling olympics test the Euro was ranked very high for lateral stability and WAY better than the Liberty GT AWD on the skidpan.

I think cause the car is so refined you can miss how good it handles.

Ive got 18x7 on my car so its very grippy. However it can get very nasty in the wet if you get silly as the understeer will bite you on the arse if you get too quick through a roundabout.

[6MT]

Talking about understeer at roundabout, I experience this every time I go around (a particular) double lane round about when the road is wet.

One wet morning I drove to this round about with speed only around 30km/hr. Surprisingly, my euro understeered heavily at mid bend and snap to a sudden oversteer (not sure if the VSA lighted up at this point). Luckily, there was no other car next to me in this double lane roundabout, as I have taken both

My query is if this is normal, have you guys experienced this before? Or is it just my car? If it is, should I replace tyres or adjust alignment do u think?

As I never experience this in my other car (stock prelude with shity tyres) during similar driving & condition

[EuroDude]

Similar thing happened to me in the rain, but I had worn tyres. Havent had a problem with unworn tyres. VSA 'snapped' the car back into the proper direction

[6MT]

Yeah, noticed cars behind me took a good long distance after this happened

I find VSA respond is too snappy, and a bit embarrassing as this understeer happens at a low speed (to a car known for its good handling) …
any suggestion on what mod or adjustment to best minimize this? is it rear sway bar?

[aaronng]

Talking about understeer at roundabout, I experience this every time I go around (a particular) double lane round about when the road is wet.

Can't beat physics. Even with VSA.

One wet morning I drove to this round about with speed only around 30km/hr. Surprisingly, my euro understeered heavily at mid bend and snap to a sudden oversteer (not sure if the VSA lighted up at this point). Luckily, there was no other car next to me in this double lane roundabout, as I have taken both

I have experienced that as well. VSA uses the ABS system to engage the brakes, so when it does work, the brakes will be braking at almost full force for that split second. Plus, you have all your weight at the front of the car during braking because of weight transfer, so any change will cause the light rear to swing around.

My query is if this is normal, have you guys experienced this before? Or is it just my car? If it is, should I replace tyres or adjust alignment do u think?

As I never experience this in my other car (stock prelude with shity tyres) during similar driving & condition

That's because your prelude doesn't have VSA. I just turn my VSA off all the time. More predictable for me.

[6MT]

Thanks Aaronng for your info
next time I try to off my VSA while driving intown (& wet) & see how it goes

[aaronng]

Thanks Aaronng for your info
next time I try to off my VSA while driving intown (& wet) & see how it goes

30km/h is too fast for a wet roundabout (depending on the size too). Without VSA, you'd just plough straight and hit your wheel on the kerb. So brake more. 30km/h is too fast for the tyres you have. What tyres btw?

[6MT]

very normal tyre i’m afraid …goodyear eagle LS…w/ stock size
not too sure exact radius of the roundabout, but it’s a double lane round about so it’s got quite a big radius

and it’s kinda sloping down at the outer edge of the round about, so this doesn’t help cornering either….

Btw, I always use engine break during mid-corner, this makes front tyres slower and promote understeer I suppose?

I heard it’s best to brake approaching a corner, u mean it’s ok to break more during corner when realised we’re carrying too much speed?

[badthing]

That's because your prelude doesn't have VSA. I just turn my VSA off all the time. More predictable for me.

I do the same as I don't like surprises. Do you have VSA off in the wet as well?

[aaronng]

very normal tyre i’m afraid …goodyear eagle LS…w/ stock size
not too sure exact radius of the roundabout, but it’s a double lane round about so it’s got quite a big radius

and it’s kinda sloping down at the outer edge of the round about, so this doesn’t help cornering either….

Btw, I always use engine break during mid-corner, this makes front tyres slower and promote understeer I suppose?

I heard it’s best to brake approaching a corner, u mean it’s ok to break more during corner when realised we’re carrying too much speed?

Get better tyres. Bridgestone RE001 adrenalins are pretty reasonably priced.

You are understeering because you are overspeeding into the roundabout. It may be only 30km/h, but that is still to quick for your tyres. Brake before the corner, or trail brake if you like.