AUDM B18C vs AUDM B16a2

**fatboyz39** · 13-04-2008 10:57 PM

FARK $4500 ? What workshop is doing it? CAUSE YOUR GETTING RIPPPPPPPPED OFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't PAY anymore then 2k + trade in a b16a.

**VT1-R** · 14-04-2008 01:34 AM

Supposed to be a cheap workshop.. haha.. Its $4500+trade my motor in. The price includes labour. I reckon under $4000 plus trade will be good. Well, I am keeping car only for another year b4 selling. Spending $4000+ now really wouldn't be a good thing unless its for a good gain...

Other than the torque, the b16a top end can be better than b18c2 after cam work rite?

**gambate** · 14-04-2008 01:01 PM

considering $50-75 per hour for labour, paying more than 24 hours (ie 3+ business day) for labour, who ever do the conversion is not good enouf for the work, B series to B series is not that much work

i guess best to break down the b18c deal to labour + trade in and see where he is trying to rip you off..

**DNYALL** · 14-04-2008 04:49 PM

dude, go b18c, no question.

**VT1-R** · 15-04-2008 12:40 AM

haha.. i will see how then.. Is there any1 who would still go b16a coz going b18c with 170hp is onli a 10hp gap? You guys think its worth the $4500 extra? after b18c no more mods for sure.. Selling car soon.. I think many misunderstand b18c i am referring to.. its the AUDM b18c with 170hp.. I have used my b16a to beat a Dc2 vti-r with exhaust.. So its not tat far off... $1700 vs $4500 is not small sum.. Any1 tried either of this combination and live to regret or rejoice?

**ZeForce** · 15-04-2008 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by VT1-R

haha.. i will see how then.. Is there any1 who would still go b16a coz going b18c with 170hp is onli a 10hp gap? You guys think its worth the $4500 extra? after b18c no more mods for sure.. Selling car soon.. I think many misunderstand b18c i am referring to.. its the AUDM b18c with 170hp.. I have used my b16a to beat a Dc2 vti-r with exhaust.. So its not tat far off... $1700 vs $4500 is not small sum.. Any1 tried either of this combination and live to regret or rejoice?

I think you are missing the point, its not just a 10hp gain in peak power. The B18c will have more power throughout the entire RPM range compared to the B16a. I previously owned a B16a civic and was disappointed by its lack of torque. My cousin owns a B18c civic which I have driven and there is a pretty big difference between the two, its alot more than just the 10 peak hp as well. As I have said before I currently own a B20VTEC civic which is even better again. If you plan on selling the car soon and dont wanna spend too much money on it then just stay with the B16a, but the fact still remains that the B18c would be the better option especially once you start modding it.

**VT1-R** · 15-04-2008 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by ZeForce

I think you are missing the point, its not just a 10hp gain in peak power. The B18c will have more power throughout the entire RPM range compared to the B16a. I previously owned a B16a civic and was disappointed by its lack of torque. My cousin owns a B18c civic which I have driven and there is a pretty big difference between the two, its alot more than just the 10 peak hp as well. As I have said before I currently own a B20VTEC civic which is even better again. If you plan on selling the car soon and dont wanna spend too much money on it then just stay with the B16a, but the fact still remains that the B18c would be the better option especially once you start modding it.

totally agree than b18c is the best after i start modding it.. Maybe i do it in a few years time down the road then.. Thanks for your help Zeforce.. I am too bored of the lack of torque. Well, might go b18c7 soon in near future..

**todaek9** · 15-04-2008 03:04 AM

Is B16a that bad??? hmmm....

**ZeForce** · 15-04-2008 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by todaek9

Is B16a that bad??? hmmm....

No, it is good for a 1.6L but the B18c is better, a B20VTEC is better again and Im gonna assume a K24a would be even better still.

There is no replacement for displacement

**FR33K** · 15-04-2008 07:47 AM

your overestimating the cost of the b18c
its should be more like 1700 for mod b16a and 2000 for the b18c (say 4.5k buy and install less 2.5k selling of your old b16a).. although option 2 is alot more hassle