[Euro] Hondata Update

[tony1234]

^ good to hear!

but with all the stuffing around with the Jtune reflash why aren't more people opting for an e-manage ultimate or haltech interceptor? A few members have those now and the gains are ranging from 12-15kw in peak power...

The Haltech Interceptor you can't adjust vtec crossover.cost with tuning is approx.$1500.Not sure on the e-manage,does anyone here know?Also cost inc.tuning?

[Chris_F]

The Haltech Interceptor you can't adjust vtec crossover.cost with tuning is approx.$1500.Not sure on the e-manage,does anyone here know?Also cost inc.tuning?

That's true, but with the hondata flash the vtec point is only being changed by 1000rpm anyway and the trade-off is you're using a generic "one map fits all" flash. ALN has the e-manage ultimate and he said his tuner found the optimum Vtec point to be 5500rpm anyway. He gained 12kw atw on top of an already impressive (120kw+) base figure with his combination of I/H/E.

$1500 for the interceptor or e-manage ultimate installed and tuned (both about $800 for the product alone) is a similar price to some popular cat-backs and for a 12-15kw gain in peak power that sounds reasonable to me. If you decide VTEC control and VTC control is important you can always add a V-manage later down the road (controls change over point and cam timing) but with a basic I/H/E the gains mightn't be worth the cost.

With the interceptor and e-manage you're also getting a more accurate tune that makes the most of the particular mods you've made to you're car.

Sure, not everyone will see this the same way, but that's my perspective. It seems the new generation of piggy-back ecu's are a bit under-rated - the ecu is no longer able to "re-learn" so that's another disadvantage out the window.

/rant lol

[sodaz]

That's true, but with the hondata flash the vtec point is only being changed by 1000rpm anyway and the trade-off is you're using a generic "one map fits all" flash. ALN has the e-manage ultimate and he said his tuner found the optimum Vtec point to be 5500rpm anyway. He gained 12kw atw on top of an already impressive (120kw+) base figure with his combination of I/H/E.

$1500 for the interceptor or e-manage ultimate installed and tuned (both about $800 for the product alone) is a similar price to some popular cat-backs and for a 12-15kw gain in peak power that sounds reasonable to me. If you decide VTEC control and VTC control is important you can always add a V-manage later down the road (controls change over point and cam timing) but with a basic I/H/E the gains mightn't be worth the cost.

With the interceptor and e-manage you're also getting a more accurate tune that makes the most of the particular mods you've made to you're car.

Sure, not everyone will see this the same way, but that's my perspective. It seems the new generation of piggy-back ecu's are a bit under-rated - the ecu is no longer able to "re-learn" so that's another disadvantage out the window.

/rant lol

I agree with you mate. I'd rather get the e-manage than the J-tune reflash to maximize the gains of my mods rather than a "one size fits all" solution. Since the ECU cannot re-learn it's better than other products like the Apexi VAFC and NEO.

[rt1688]

Still waiting for the final exhaust system, haven't heard anything from James since January.

Hoping to get a dyno done when the exhaust gets switched over from the prototype. Can't comment on the noise of the final system untill then.

I'll have another attempt at the 400m again then.......

Lucky I said no to James when he asked if i can be the prototype euro for jtune extreme kit. If i said yes then i will be in the same shoes as Merlin086. I personally think Jtune are too busy with the civic typer and leaving the euro project aside.

By the way which insurance company did you switch to after the extreme kit installation?.

[BiLL|z0r]

If Jtune had a Euro you'd bet it would be done by now but since James' CTR is there everyday and he gets personal benefit from it you can bet that's why it's already finished.

[johnprocter]

lol i cant believe the CTR packages are on the way but euro ones still arent :S

[Crapdaz]

Sounds like best option would be haltech interceptor or Emanage ultimate.

Just a noobish question right how you know what settings to be tuned for? would the guy tuning know what to set it at or you tell him your specs?

[aaronng]

Sounds like best option would be haltech interceptor or Emanage ultimate.

Just a noobish question right how you know what settings to be tuned for? would the guy tuning know what to set it at or you tell him your specs?

The tuner should dyno tune it specific to your car. There is nothing you can tell him other than the mods you have, which he might not even require.

[Crapdaz]

sounds pretty good thanks aaron.

Would you prefer Haltech interceptor or Emanage Ult reasons being?
which one would be better?

[aaronng]

sounds pretty good thanks aaron.

Would you prefer Haltech interceptor or Emanage Ult reasons being?
which one would be better?

I wouldn't choose Haltech because it doesn't support vtec point changing. Once you have your mods and change the fuel and ignition maps, the optimum vtec point also changes. So you would want to have that feature. So I would go Emanage ultimate.

[Adrian Euro]

I wouldn't choose Haltech because it doesn't support vtec point changing. Once you have your mods and change the fuel and ignition maps, the optimum vtec point also changes. So you would want to have that feature. So I would go Emanage ultimate.

Can you have the Haltech and then also run the VAFC2 to change vtec cross over and anything else the VAFC2 does. Of this setup pointless.

[aaronng]

Can you have the Haltech and then also run the VAFC2 to change vtec cross over and anything else the VAFC2 does. Of this setup pointless.

I wouldn't dare try running 2 piggybacks together...........