AUDM B18C vs AUDM B16a2

[rpm boy]

Yep but in an ek4... i mean when ur flooring it ur in vtec neways so that low end torque isnt really a big issue, depending on what ur putting it in, eg theres no need ek is even fine so stick with the b16 i rekon

[barefootbonzai]

Any more details on your car rpm_boy? 1/4 times or perhaps even some dyno figures to back up your claims?

[aaronng]

Yep but in an ek4... i mean when ur flooring it ur in vtec neways so that low end torque isnt really a big issue, depending on what ur putting it in, eg theres no need ek is even fine so stick with the b16 i rekon

Even when you floor it, you still need to reach 6000rpm. Also when you are in vtec, there isn't much torque.....

[aaronng]

What rpm did the b18 make that torque at?
Keep the b16 get a lightened flywheel, toda b cams, hondata, itb's, spoon head gasket and u will shit over a b18 and not have to do a conversion, theres soo many ways to get some serious power out of a b16 that would be easier than doing the b18 conversion its just no one wants to bother with them anymore , 4500 will get you a preety damn fast b16

Is $4500 for parts alone? Or does that include labour?

[Zilli]

i smell ownage...

[rpm boy]

Lets all go back to the first question which was what would be better, doing up the b16 or dropping in a b18c, now for the money modding the b16 would be the cheapest option and if danny was going to spend 4500 u could build a much faster b16 than putting in a stock b18c.....i dont mean to say that a b18 isnt better than a b16 cause thats not the case a b18 is a superior motor in many respects but in this case (MY OPINION) the b16 with some work would b better, you could even get a jrsc for less than the b18c
Barefootbonzai, i didnt make any claims as to hp or kw but surely with the mods listed before with a b16 compared to a stock AUDM b18c, the b16 would be the superior motor taking driver ability out of the equation?

[barefootbonzai]

yeah agreed. changing to a VTiR B18c for $4500 + B16 is a crazy rip off. But if it's costing the OP that much for that, it'd probably cost him an arm and a leg to make his B16 any good as well. Kinda sux living where he does.

[Limbo]

for that money i'd boost the car, and i have an ek4 also.

When i had N/A - after all the work i did to the car it still did not have the torque of a b18. It was faster than most b18 vti-rs (don't ask you don't wanna know)

End of the day only boost can make a b16 really out perform a b18. I'm addicted now

[nigs]

Hill climb in a 1.6 = LOL
Even though it's maybe making more power than a 1.8, it's much much later. Reducing usable power.

Broad power band FTW.
N/A throttle reponse FTW.
N/A exhaust note FTW.

All depends on application I guess.

[todaek9]

just stick wit tha b16..if don like it...might as well change the car...

[hondavti25]

hhhmm ihave the same choice to make and i have a heavier ej8... problem is finding the cheapest deal in qld... does the higher tourque of the b18 make a huge differance?

[bennjamin]

yes. The b18c2/7 will "pull" more easily from every gear. IE it will have more usable power and oomph. You wont have to downshift as much