Officially unveiled: New Euro

[N3M3SIS]

i heard the diesel model is onlt manual, and will have 112kw...but over 320nm of torque, Honda also said, they will develope a 5AT for the diesel but it will come out after the 6MT.

[Suntzu]

ill be disappointed in those figures. They are pimping this new honda DTEC gen diesel spec, but Mazda is already knocking out 350nm in a 2lt diesel mazda 3 and BMW have a 130kw 400nm sport diesel already in europe.

That being said honda do normally aim for the best emmisisons over outright power.

[CB7_OWNER]

i think the current model is soo perfect... love the exterior looks of it...

[my_vtec77]

i think the current model is soo perfect... love the exterior looks of it...

That's absolutely right. Can't compare the current exterior styling.

[SPEEDCORE]

ill be disappointed in those figures. They are pimping this new honda DTEC gen diesel spec, but Mazda is already knocking out 350nm in a 2lt diesel mazda 3 and BMW have a 130kw 400nm sport diesel already in europe.

That being said honda do normally aim for the best emmisisons over outright power.

What size engines are the mazda and BMW and are they forced?

[Dilan]

What size engines are the mazda and BMW and are they forced?

BMW 120D - 125kW @ 4000rpm, 340nm @ 1750rpm - Turbo Intercooled. 2.0L
BMW 530D - 160kW @ 4000rpm, 480Nm @ 1750rpm-2750rpm -Turbo Intercooled 3.0L

Mazda 6 (2007) - 105kW @ 3500rpm, 360Nm @ 2000rpm - Turbo Intercooled 2.0L

VW Jetta - 103kW @ 4000rpm, 320Nm @ 1750rpm-2500rpm - Turbo Intercooled 2.0L

Ford Mondeo - 96kW @ 4000rpm, 320Nm @ 1750rpm-2240rpm - Turbo Intercooled 2.0L

[bentusi123]

it doesnt looks good.
maybe inside change alot and looks nice.
but the outside is too "big"~~~~~
also........the muffler just like the old version Mazda 6!?
small and nothing have sport feeling.

[Dilan]

also........the muffler just like the old version Mazda 6!?
small and nothing have sport feeling.

Anyone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe its the 2.0L that gets the "small" exhaust. I think the 2.4L has something like this; http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/attachm...5&d=1210584964

[ShAwNeX]

not a big fan of the shape of the lights

[SPQR]

From the review: "A full version for the 18-inch-shod models' wouldn't fit in the boot, and besides, Honda Australia says customers aren't complaining... Just Aussie motoring journos!"

This is what I dislike about Honda Australia. They like to make up our opinions on our behalf. I would complain if my lux didn't come with a full sized spare. Also, the 17" comes with 225/50R17 tyres. If the 18" isn't going to fit, i wonder what tyres it comes with. 235/40R18? If it is 225/45R18, I'd be spewing because the overall dimensions are the same as 225/50R17.

One would expect the same overall diameter as you say. In which case it should fit but it might protrude more if the rim is wider.

[SPEEDCORE]

BMW 120D - 125kW @ 4000rpm, 340nm @ 1750rpm - Turbo Intercooled. 2.0L
BMW 530D - 160kW @ 4000rpm, 480Nm @ 1750rpm-2750rpm -Turbo Intercooled 3.0L

Mazda 6 (2007) - 105kW @ 3500rpm, 360Nm @ 2000rpm - Turbo Intercooled 2.0L

VW Jetta - 103kW @ 4000rpm, 320Nm @ 1750rpm-2500rpm - Turbo Intercooled 2.0L

Ford Mondeo - 96kW @ 4000rpm, 320Nm @ 1750rpm-2240rpm - Turbo Intercooled 2.0L

Thanks for that.... I think the next logical comparison would be to see how frugal honda's diesel is compared to the others. Personally.. I think the 112kw is enough... would like to see another 30-40Nm more torque, but if the consumption is better than the competition even with the extra cc compared to all those in that list (minus the 3L beemer), I think it could end up being a good choice.... time will tell.

[Suntzu]

I dont think slightly better than 3 year old ford and vw diesels is good enough. Not when you have an extra 200cc to play with.

But in hondas defence it because it exceeds the Euro VI standards for emissions which is fantastic, using the ammonia recovery system honda developed. Very high tech.

regardless of all this it comes down to how the diesel drives...

I dunno if i can come off my 7600 rpm limit and drop to a 4000rpm one!