Rear Camber Arm + Trailing Arm Bush

[fatboyz39]

look at these. Very similar to noltec at half the cost.



The whole bushing kit, i.e most of the suspension bushings will cos about 300US landed.

[string]

Wow they look great! Do they have the rta bushing available separately?

[dsp26]

look at these. Very similar to noltec at half the cost.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...9/P1010787.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...9/P1010788.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...9/P1010789.jpg
The whole bushing kit, i.e most of the suspension bushings will cos about 300US landed.

yup saw those on eBay too... theres a slightly cheaper one i'll look into, the Megan racing one... i emailed them about shipping.

but this one has the cheapest shipping i can find:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Megan...spagenameZWD1V

good info and suggestions in this thread!!

[bennjamin]

http://stores.ebay.com.au/Upgrade-Au...Q3amesstQQtZkm

[bennjamin]

just a thought -

hey mate, hope you are well

my RTA bushes are fine, i used black (graphite impregnated) ES bushes.

the times i have NOT noticed any *issues* include:

doing 190km/h around turn 1 at eastern creek, doing 145km/h over the dogleg at oran park and doing 7km/h parking my car.

anyone who talks of binding issues might wanna check the Honda manual for torque specs and proper suspension installation proceedures...

please use a Honda manual to supplement my DIY overview...

best of luck...

david..

[fatboyz39]

what is RTA? or binding?

[bennjamin]

what is RTA? or binding?

read thru this thread noob.

RTA = rear trailing arm bush
binding = The term "binding" describes a suspension that does not move smoothly through the operating range. Binding causes dramatic changes in wheel rate as the suspension compresses. Understeer / oversteer tendencies shift rapidly, making handling unpredictable. Ride quality and road grip suffer.

http://www.elephantracing.com/techtopic/binding.htm

[fatboyz39]

read thru this thread noob.

RTA = rear trailing arm bush
binding = The term "binding" describes a suspension that does not move smoothly through the operating range. Binding causes dramatic changes in wheel rate as the suspension compresses. Understeer / oversteer tendencies shift rapidly, making handling unpredictable. Ride quality and road grip suffer.

http://www.elephantracing.com/techtopic/binding.htm

thanks Ben.

string: I can ask the seller if you would like a set.

[nd55]

> Ride quality and road grip suffer

This thread follows one on Honda-tech some time ago with equal numbers of voices in the yay and nay camps.

The issue wasn't ride quality, but a tendency to snap oversteer at the limit of suspension travel and (I think) some instability under hard braking.

Daily driving was fine.


The Energy Suspension RTA is a Poly Bush only.
You burn out the old one and re-use the center pin and metal shell.

Re-using the center pin means the poly bush has to slide on a rough surface which was never meant to do this.

The Prothane poly bush comes as a complete replacement, poly bush, outer metal shell and center pin.

There are better designed RTAs out there.

Hardrace and even sperical bearing products. I think Noltec improved on the Prothane design a bit, but have never seen one.

[dsp26]

since its likely you squirted it in either side and let it cure - chances are it will simply "fall out" over time. A temp. fix.

Get the bushes Ron....$50 shipped on US ebay...im getting a set and installing with a mate in the next few weeks if ya wanna come in on it for DIY fun

Benny!! ended up finding an oem set on ebay for a bargain price of $60 for x2... going to solid fill these ones properly... my last set was full of sand with the rubbers actually torn and a bad poly fill job lol

can you help me install?

[bennjamin]

for the OEM set you need a press to get the old out , and new ones back in. Not hard to get out ross...

[STiR]

a semi rooted or fully rooted trailing arm bush CAN advance other wear and tear in your rear suspension - such as camber , TOE etc. Get them replaced with OEM or energy solids.
Also your handling can be adversely affected from old worn trailing arm bushes. Under braking or lift off the car can become twitchy and unsettled (real life experience from track work with 15 year old bushes)

This is very true. Even with high end coilovers (TODA FIGHTEX), my shot RTA and camber kit inner bushes (common problem with skunk2?) caused me to have a high speed spin under braking with only slight steering angle. Also backing off gently in a high speed bend is very, very scary. Please change your bushes if they are bad...safety first (and performance comes with it!)