NEW 2009 EURO - at the track...

[Riviera]

4th pic look at the flare in the front guards mmmmmmmmmmmmm

looks so tough lol

[SPQR]

OK It's time now to start a new forum for the new Euro and to relocate this thread to it. Obviously it won't be called the Euro CL9. So what is it?

[SPQR]

VT3C, thanks for the pics. But tell us more: What's it feel like inside? What's it smell like? Is it actually roomier? Is it Quieter? Is there any noticeable performance gain from the beefier torque? Does it track straight or does it wander on the road like the CL9? What's the ride like? What's the steering feel like? Does it have any cup holders? What's the stereo sound like? Is it easier to get into the back? Is the boot bigger? What tyres are fitted? What are the names of the colours? Does the glovebox lid fit properly? What equipment is included above and beyond the CL9? Does the remote control still enable the windows to wind down? Does the door key still enable the windows to be opened and closed?

We're hungry for meaningful info.

[VT3C]

What's it feel like inside?

What's it smell like?

I'm kinda accustomed to that 'new-car-smell' these days however I did notice the smell of the leather in the Luxury when i first opened the door hahaha.. JDM cows smell better than Thai cows

Is it actually roomier?

yes MUCH roomier - especially shoulder room and knee-room in the back.

Is it Quieter?

Honda definately tried to address the NVH levels of the car and have much more sound deadening material etc, however it doesnt compare with the ANC system on the Legend and V6-L.

when pushed harder, the engine itself is bordering on noisy though with a definate VTEC mini-pop similar to the NEW ACCORD. It has almost the identical composite intake manifold as the NEW ACCORD etc.

Is there any noticeable performance gain from the beefier torque?

There's definately much more torque however that tends to flatten out the ower curve so the top-end doesnt feel as wild as the CL9. for 'normal' driving it was super smooth to drive but on the track the 'torque' tends to make it feel slower but am pretty sure it was faster in midrange at least.

The 6-speed when I drove it on the street was great !! they've made the ratios closer or the extra torque helps bring the ratios closer together if u know what I mean. The CL9's gears were too tall and far apart for my liking.

Does it track straight or does it wander on the road like the CL9?

not sure what you mean as I havnt taken a CL9 to the track before, but the new Euro's chassis was beautiful and stiff and it seemed to go everywhere I pointed it. They've added in revised front suspension geometry and given more negative camber to the fronts so that can make mid corner stability much better sometimes at the cost of some straight line 'twitchyness'.. but I've never noticed what you say in either car.. perhaps yours needs a steering alignment or it's been in a side-impact crash ?

What's the ride like?

even though it's much stiffer than the CL9, the new one feels more luxurious when driven 'normally' but when pushed, the improvements in the chassis and sussy geometry makes it feel pretty agile. being so much more wider in track, it feels a lot different to the old model in that respect.

What's the steering feel like?

the steering is great !! it has a new electronically assisted power steering system and while it doesnt have the Variable gear rack like the NEW ACCORD, it has a more direct feel for the road offering better driver feedback to the road like the S2000.

Does it have any cup holders?

yes yes I think it has 8 cupholders for 5 passengers - plus it now has chilled / heated glovebox AND centre-console/armrest bin... like the FN2's glovebox.. so u can fill up the 8 cupholders and keep some cold ones in the glovebox too haha.

What's the stereo sound like?

GREAT !! it has a new Alpine system with 10 SPEAKERS EVEN ON THE STD MODEL including a sub with separate fader to the sub like the V6-L. It now comes with an AUX input and WILL play your MP3 CD's also (AT LAST !!!)

Is it easier to get into the back?

while there's more legroom in the back seat, I had a bit of trouble getting out of the rear as the door seemed even shorter than the old model !!! the door opens wider though.. and i'm 6'1"..

Is the boot bigger?

the boot is a bone of contention.. it's no bigger and has a raised hump in the floor as the car was designed for a space-saver spare but we've fitted a full size 17" spare to the std. model. the Luxury has 18" wheels that apparently wont fit into the wheel well so they've had to use a space saver FTL.

What tyres are fitted?

hrm I think they were michellin but i'll have to check..

What are the names of the colours?

will have to check - i left my factbook at home LOL..

Does the glovebox lid fit properly?

not sure what u mean there.. fit properly ? i never had trouble with any CL9' except when having the woodgrain trim kit fitted sometimes got in the way of the latch..

What equipment is included above and beyond the CL9?

lots !! will have to check the factbook tonight and post it all later,..

Does the remote control still enable the windows to wind down?

NO !!!!! has a remote boot release but no auto windows down function anymore

Does the door key still enable the windows to be opened and closed?

isnt that the same question LOL ?

[aaronng]

isnt that the same question LOL ?

Nope, the old Euro allowed you to autowind all windows up or down using the key when you put it in to the keyhole in the driver's side door and turn twice towards open (holding it at open the 2nd time) to wind the windows down, or turning it twice towards lock to wind the windows up.

[Type R Positive]

OK It's time now to start a new forum for the new Euro and to relocate this thread to it. Obviously it won't be called the Euro CL9. So what is it?

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