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  1. #25
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    firt point of call would be the spring and dampers along with wheel alignment. get that sorted first before bushes castor etc
    Is this the end of my car modding days? Buying a house says so...

  2. #26
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    another point i noticed about my high speed handling... it seems that i am "getting" better traction in the wet.... was hitting it again at the freeway just a while ago.. and it seems the problem i described earlier had indeed been lessened in the rain.. (the steering feels firmer and more accurate)..

    Correct me if this is just my illusion or is it really possible..?

  3. #27
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    it think it's best for you to find a fren with a simliar car and get the person to drive your car and vice versa if possible. Otherwise you'll be chasing your own tail by new handling issues ( real or preceived ) one after another.

  4. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by squish85 View Post
    another point i noticed about my high speed handling... it seems that i am "getting" better traction in the wet.... was hitting it again at the freeway just a while ago.. and it seems the problem i described earlier had indeed been lessened in the rain.. (the steering feels firmer and more accurate)..

    Correct me if this is just my illusion or is it really possible..?
    The only thing I can think of might be to do with ambient temp. Was the temperature lower in these wet conditions?

    Something I've noticed over the years, some cars handle slightly better in cooler conditions, and (without knowing for certain) I put this down to the temperature of the fluid in the dampers, i.e. cooler damper fluid is slightly thicker and as a result the damper is slightly stiffer in cooler conditions than warmer conditions. This might vary from damper to damper, and might be more significant with poorer quality and / or more worn dampers(?).

  5. #29
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    now i think it may be in your head. definatley get in another teg and see how it feels.
    Is this the end of my car modding days? Buying a house says so...

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    Well.. guys.. found the problem today.... it seems all my tyres were really under-pressured.... 160kpa+ on fronts .. 184kpa on rear.... as opposed to 240kpa front and 230kpa rear....

    I took it for a bashing after filling it up to specification... and it seems to handle heaps better... no more floating loose sensation when i vtec it up to 120+..

    But otherwise.. I feel the handling above speeds on 140+ still needs some remedy...

    P.S: Anyone in perth with a dc2 vtir i can test drive for comparison ? hahaha :P

  7. #31
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    sorry what is that in psi? there is a thread somewhere about what tyre pressusres people run. you'll find the is more to trye pressure than you think.
    Is this the end of my car modding days? Buying a house says so...

  8. #32
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    240 = ~35psi
    230 = ~33psi

    i've found 36/34 f/r COLD pretty comfy for day to day driving

  9. #33
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    tyre pressures should have been the very first thing you look at
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  10. #34
    squish85: Can you actually give a decent description of what the 'problem' is?

    I've always noticed that my steering will feel very light if at high speeds.. especially when I floor it up to vtec
    Flooring it will make your steering lighter because you are taking load off the front wheels. Any time you have your foot on the throttle you are giving up some of your front grip for rear grip.

    another point i noticed about my high speed handling... it seems that i am "getting" better traction in the wet.... was hitting it again at the freeway just a while ago.. and it seems the problem i described earlier had indeed been lessened in the rain.. (the steering feels firmer and more accurate)..
    Better traction? In what way? Faster turn-in? Higher sweeping G's? Less under steer (lol)? Your previous 'problem' of steering lightness is not a problem or the problem.

    Sounds like you have some loose-off-centre steering. Blown shocks, sloppy ball joints, worn tie-rod ends - the possibilities grow less the more information you give.

    The 'loose sensation' you are talking about, is it that you don't feel the steering wheel controls the weight of the car? Shocks control movements of the sprung weight, and the shitter they get the less control you get in transitions the faster you go. If you want good stability and control at 140kph+ then you have lots of money to spend and lots of things to learn.

    You can't go 140kph, turn the steering wheel, be ignorant of the physics of a vehicle, and remain alive all at the same time. Especially in a car which obviously has suspension problems (and probably more that you don't know about yet).
    Last edited by string; 08-06-2008 at 06:27 PM.

  11. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by squish85 View Post
    Well.. guys.. found the problem today.... it seems all my tyres were really under-pressured.... 160kpa+ on fronts .. 184kpa on rear.... as opposed to 240kpa front and 230kpa rear....
    160kpa = 23psi, which is dangerously low, especially at higher velocities. To drive at high speed when you have no idea of even what your tyre pressures might be is very foolish.

    Quote Originally Posted by squish85 View Post
    But otherwise.. I feel the handling above speeds on 140+ still needs some remedy...
    Handling at speeds over 140kmh needs no remedy, it is utterly irrelevant unless you race the car.

    How old are you? How old do you think you're going to get? Driving at 140+kmh on the road, it won't be too long before you lose your licence, do some time, hurt yourself, hurt someone else, kill someone else, or kill yourself.

  12. #36
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    i don't give him long going 140+ and trying to turn quick. sloppy shocks and speed wobble is a bitch
    Is this the end of my car modding days? Buying a house says so...

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