Which of these brands should I choose for shocks?

[EKVTIR-T]

As price is similar then go Bilstein for sure.I would rate those choices as Bilstein>Koni>Kyb then Tokico.
Having had Koni yellows for 6 mths I now believe they are overrated..
Just my opinion

[vuongkong]

I've heard that Koni Yellows + the Ground Control setup, is a lot better then most coilovers you can get, can anybody shine some light on this? has anyone had these shocks mentioned above?

[hai]

Yep lots of people talking koni yellows ; friends have them too and his outcomes was great, recommended !

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As price is similar then go Bilstein for sure.I would rate those choices as Bilstein>Koni>Kyb then Tokico.
Having had Koni yellows for 6 mths I now believe they are overrated..
Just my opinion

Care to elaborate on your opinion? Displaying a product in negative light is all well and good if you can justify it. I've been happy with my yellows for over 12 months. Maybe you have poor springs, or don't know how to adjust them to suit your driving style, or maybe you can tell me the problem

[bennjamin]

i add +1 vote for kon yellow shocks to suit your ride. Mated with decent springs ( not king or pedders etc) they are quite good.

[EKVTIR-T]

Care to elaborate on your opinion? Displaying a product in negative light is all well and good if you can justify it. I've been happy with my yellows for over 12 months. Maybe you have poor springs, or don't know how to adjust them to suit your driving style, or maybe you can tell me the problem

I was waiting for your comment mr string.

I have used them with king,gab and vision springs and find they made no real improvement over my oem shocks.

And do me a favour by not suggesting all your negative possibilities for me being displeased with Koni.
I feel they don't live up to all the hype but I'm glad you are happy with yours.
We all have our own ideas and opinions and experiences and I don't need you to defend them based on your opinions
I will be selling them at some stage and getting a replacement setup.

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When installing the Koni's, what were you expecting to happen? What did happen? Don't water it down, give it to me straight exactly what you expected for your money and how much of it ended up true.

You can throw words like idea, opinion, possibility and experience around all you like, but suspension design is a SCIENCE.

If I said that soft springs are your problem not your good choice of damper, what do you say?

[bennjamin]

i bet installed with lowered springs or on the lowest perch etc.

[aaronng]

The spring rate has to be matched to the damping rate. If he has soft springs, then the Konis won't be the best choice for him.

[EKVTIR-T]

When installing the Koni's, what were you expecting to happen? What did happen? Don't water it down, give it to me straight exactly what you expected for your money and how much of it ended up true.

You can throw words like idea, opinion, possibility and experience around all you like, but suspension design is a SCIENCE.

If I said that soft springs are your problem not your good choice of damper, what do you say?

Firstly regarding springs.The kings were lows which are moderately lowered and the softer of the 3 ,the gabs were extremely low and harder than the kings and the vision are a moderate height and the stiffest of the 3.

I was hoping to get better rebound control over bumps and dips as I enjoy twisty/mountain type driving which isn't always a perfect surface.
Also a little less body roll and improved steering response considering the uprated valving compared to oem.
And better absorption of road irregularities.
I have tried the range of rebound adjustment with all 3 springs fitted.

Science is all well and good if all things are equal and also there's the human element as well.


To add,the suggestions of too soft springs only go so far as with the standard valved yellows over approx. 10kg/mm is not recommended anyway.

[xenonkuraz]

I'm planning on a koni yellow/neuspeed race combo. The ns springs lower the car by around 2" back and front.

Go ahead?

[krogoth]

i add +1 vote for kon yellow shocks to suit your ride. Mated with decent springs ( not king or pedders etc) they are quite good.

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this is the first time ive seen som1 who knows wat theyr talking about criticise king springs, evry other time ive seen them crticised was by ppl running super lows on stock shocks and wondering y their car cant take corners and y it sags after a wile

imo, the biggest difference between different kinds of springs is how stiff they are

so, maybe u mean that kings arent suited to konis because they are not stiff enough for that shock? not that they are crap?