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    Quote Originally Posted by Benson View Post
    Yeap i know its weird... this is our first low making power Honda engine.. but it doesnt explain its speeds down the straight at Oran Park and Eastern Creek as it still hits easily over 200km/hr down the straight.

    i wonder what it would do down the 1/4 mile tho..

    Must be the dyno?
    You know, your graph looks just like the the Hi-Comp EG's graph BEFORE they put the open headers on with the TWM's. It was doing the same thing. Made heaps of power in the midrange but up top it just fell flat. When the put the much larger open pipes on it made a HUGE difference and the top end power just kept going.

    So, you might find the ITB's are flowing much more than what the heeaders can. Try a much larger pipe and see what happens. You might be surprised.

    Just for reference those bigger headers made 13kwatw diffeence up top and for longer with a 15kw difference in the midrange even though it was already very fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by todaek9 View Post
    Just out of curiosity.
    Comparing benjamin's dyno graph (~116kw), 1st page, and fatboyz39 dyno graph (~97kw), 5th page, Both are running the same engine, why one is 20kw more?
    Mind explaining?
    probably different dyno giving different results.... it has been discussed before that Ben's b18c7 is a strong motor hence good dyno result for a stocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy rooster View Post
    You know, your graph looks just like the the Hi-Comp EG's graph BEFORE they put the open headers on with the TWM's. It was doing the same thing. Made heaps of power in the midrange but up top it just fell flat. When the put the much larger open pipes on it made a HUGE difference and the top end power just kept going.

    So, you might find the ITB's are flowing much more than what the heeaders can. Try a much larger pipe and see what happens. You might be surprised.

    Just for reference those bigger headers made 13kwatw diffeence up top and for longer with a 15kw difference in the midrange even though it was already very fat.
    Good advice, but we have been down that route.. Same top end but picked up heaps in the mid-range..... didnt make difference on the track.. felt the same between the two different headers...
    We got our eyes set on the head for causing the problem...but the car is making good compression across all 4 cylinders....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jords View Post
    probably different dyno giving different results.... it has been discussed before that Ben's b18c7 is a strong motor hence good dyno result for a stocker.
    yup you gotta compare it to cars on that day. None others and no other dyno days....Mind you my motor ran almost the same numbers as a medium modded b18c7 on the same day too.

    anyway Benson + fatboyz got some issues to work out best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennjamin View Post
    yup you gotta compare it to cars on that day. None others and no other dyno days....Mind you my motor ran almost the same numbers as a medium modded b18c7 on the same day too.

    anyway Benson + fatboyz got some issues to work out best of luck
    OEM motors FTW!!

    Issue will be worked out soon. Looks like the head has to come off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fatboyz39 View Post
    OEM motors FTW!!

    Issue will be worked out soon. Looks like the head has to come off.
    Sounds like dave has had his hand in the pie.
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    not sure if this is correct thread to post this in, but i figure you guys know the most about cams. so does anyone have the stock information on the AUDM Accord Euros K24A3 camshafts? (intake and exhaust)

    Adv. Dur. / Dur @ .050 / Lift (mm) ?

    thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUR003act View Post
    not sure if this is correct thread to post this in, but i figure you guys know the most about cams. so does anyone have the stock information on the AUDM Accord Euros K24A3 camshafts? (intake and exhaust)

    Adv. Dur. / Dur @ .050 / Lift (mm) ?

    thanks guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    Probably the same as the 04-05 TSX. http://hondata.com/images/tsxtuning/...amprofiles.gif
    does that mean using a RSX-S (K20A/Z) exhaust cam along with TSX/Euro (K24A2/3) intake cam would work better?

    any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUR003act View Post
    does that mean using a RSX-S (K20A/Z) exhaust cam along with TSX/Euro (K24A2/3) intake cam would work better?

    any suggestions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TODA AU View Post
    I have a set you can have for free if you want to try...
    PM'd

    It's actually been very interesting looking at the difference in all the camshafts honda make... some on the TypeR cams are more aggressive in lift and duration to other manufacturers stage1 cams for the K24

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUR003act View Post
    PM'd

    It's actually been very interesting looking at the difference in all the camshafts honda make... some on the TypeR cams are more aggressive in lift and duration to other manufacturers stage1 cams for the K24
    That is because the more aggressive cams tend to push the peak torque higher in the RPM range, thus benefitting engines which can rev higher. Also, when you say stage 1 cams for K24, do you mean K24A1 or K24A2?
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