Wheel size for DC5S?

[SiR CRX]

Thanks guys.

This RSX is running 18x10 in the rear with a +30 offset and 18x9 in the front with a +12 offset and 245/40/18 tyres. Apparently it doesn't rub with the rolled guards. Is this possible on an AUDM Integra or do we run different offsets to guys in the states?

[kongfu]

Just to clear any confusion (in case there is any) I think Chi is trying to say that the AUDM setup with a +40 rim will sit further inside the guards when compared to a JDM setup with a +40 rim.



If wanted a bit more dish, go for a lower offset rim. The amount of dish that a rim gives is generally proportional to the size and offset of the rim.

FYI, a 8.5" +37 offset rim will just clear the rear guards with a light fender roll and -2.5degrees camber. With a slightly more aggressive roll, you should be able to fit a 8.5" +30 rim with the same camber.



What makes you say that this is the best for a DC5R?

+43 will clear SPOON, BREMBO without any issues.

Temp, air23box running this offset. Thats the fact.

[kongfu]

Best in what way? Best if you want to run tiny tyres? Best if you want your rims to be sunken into the guards if you lower your car? best if you like your rims to have a super flat faced look? You must qualify your statements.

Best for daily! Best for track! Best for Clearing Spoon and Brembo calipers!

Statement completes!

[Chi]

Best for daily! Best for track! Best for Clearing Spoon and Brembo calipers!

Statement completes!

+43 will not clear spoon calipers , at least not the majority of rims.

You will need +38 or less to have a chance to clear.

+43 with wider rims is not good either for daily especially if you want to full lock turn as it will sit in too much and scrub the chasis.
If you get wider rims it is wise to get more aggressive offset to clear the strut housing more easily.

Brembos will have no chance of clearing with +43 on AUDM hubs, I got teh JDM hubs with CE28's +43 wheels ( in theory +28 on AUDM hubs ) and it clears it by a finger.


So unless you can justify your state with proper reason to why it is the best, I dont see your statement being valid.

[chargeR]

Thanks guys.

This RSX is running 18x10 in the rear with a +30 offset and 18x9 in the front with a +12 offset and 245/40/18 tyres. Apparently it doesn't rub with the rolled guards. Is this possible on an AUDM Integra or do we run different offsets to guys in the states?

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Yes this is possible on an AUDM Integra as the suspension on our cars is functionally identical to that of the RSX. If you are willing to play around with camber adjustment front and rear, and change tyre sizes to get it to fit you can get widths and offsets like that to fit. However wheels setups like that are a terrible idea for performance. Wider in the rear of a fwd and not very large tyres is weaksauce. If you run a more conservative offset and alignment you will be able to fit 245 tyres at all four corners, unless you are particularly after the dished look of those wide low offset wheels.

+43 will clear SPOON, BREMBO without any issues.

Temp, air23box running this offset. Thats the fact.

Best for daily! Best for track! Best for Clearing Spoon and Brembo calipers!

Statement completes!

air23box runs the full jdm suspension so his offset is not really applicable to an AUDM car, and word on the street is that TeMp wants to change rims to a lower offset.

Also rims with +43 offset tend have pretty poor brake clearance, I witnessed a rim of this offset not clear a large caliper on the front of an AUDM DC5 whereas a +29 offset of the same rim cleared easily. You cannot arbitrarily claim that a certain offset is perfect especially desregarding width, for example a 17x8 +43 will only just clear the front suspension on my car, due to some peculiarities in my suspension setup, and a 17x8.5 +43 will not clear so +43 is hardly the ideal offset for me if I wish to use a rim decently wide.

[mugsee]

TypeSSyndrome must either not drive his car very fast or he must have ultra stiff spring rates if he drives on that as a daily. On anything short of race-spec stiff springs, his guards would be munched through normal driving. Make sure you take this into consideration before you shove massive wheels on your ride and before you try and slam it

Best for daily! Best for track! Best for Clearing Spoon and Brembo calipers! Statement completes!

Why is it best for a daily? Why is it best for the track? Why is it the best for clearing Spoon and Brembo calipers? Your comments are complete, but completely useless without logical justification.

Humor us with why you think +43 is the best offset.

[SiR CRX]

Yes this is possible on an AUDM Integra as the suspension on our cars is functionally identical to that of the RSX. If you are willing to play around with camber adjustment front and rear, and change tyre sizes to get it to fit you can get widths and offsets like that to fit. However wheels setups like that are a terrible idea for performance. Wider in the rear of a fwd and not very large tyres is weaksauce. If you run a more conservative offset and alignment you will be able to fit 245 tyres at all four corners, unless you are particularly after the dished look of those wide low offset wheels.

Thanks again.

So say I bought some wheels and tyres in exactly the same size and offset as the car above. It would fit exactly the same? I'm not saying im going to do this but just curious.

[TeMp]

Haha As soon as I saw this thread I knew you guys will be on it like a rash.

But yes it is true +43 is weak sauce for DC5 (AUDM) in both looks and performance wise.

Look wise +43 does not make the rim fill out the guards and with a kit the affect is even worst as the kit makes the guards even more aggressive and the rim even more sunken in (then add in camber...................).

Performance wise, atm I am running -2.6 front camber and sadly it scrubs (on full lock) and the specs of my rim is already relatively conservative 17"/7.5 +43.

Chi - I know someone who cleared brembos with +46 work cr 17" rim. I take it that the clearing needed for the spoon and jdm brembos are very similar?

In terms of rims and brakes clearance it not only depends on rim offset and width but also the spoke design of the actual rim.

Personally I wouldn't go any thing higher then +35 for DC5...

[Chi]

Chi - I know someone who cleared brembos with +46 work cr 17" rim. I take it that the clearing needed for the spoon and jdm brembos are very similar?
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Is this the guy with the project mu rotors?

I'm sure he did the hub conversion as well hence +46 on a +60 hub is like running +31 i think.

If not I did say the majority of rims not all.

[mugsee]

Thanks again.

So say I bought some wheels and tyres in exactly the same size and offset as the car above. It would fit exactly the same? I'm not saying im going to do this but just curious.

They will fit the same, provided you have the same accompanying modifications - coilovers, spring rates, camber arms, rolled fenders, etc.

Chi - I know someone who cleared brembos with +46 work cr 17" rim. I take it that the clearing needed for the spoon and jdm brembos are very similar?

In terms of rims and brakes clearance it not only depends on rim offset and width but also the spoke design of the actual rim.

JDM rims are +60 and they clear stock JDM DC5R brembos, so something with a +46 should have a more clearance, assuming the rim design permits. Spoon calipers are much chunkier to the JDM OEMS and require higher offset rims when trying to clear them. However like you pointed out, rim design is equally a determining factor when deciding what will clear and what will not.

Something cool to note is that 16x7 +35 Spoon SW338's will clear Spoon S2000 calipers. Tres cool.

Personally I wouldn't go any thing higher then +35 for DC5...

According to Kong Fu, this is not the best offset and you should keep your +43's...

[TeMp]

Is this the guy with the project mu rotors?

I'm sure he did the hub conversion as well hence +46 on a +60 hub is like running +31 i think.

If not I did say the majority of rims not all.

Argh.. you are right. He did do the conversation. Forgot about that.

Something cool to note is that 16x7 +35 Spoon SW338's will clear Spoon S2000 calipers. Tres cool.

I'm sorry but that seriously can't beat the dude in Brissy fitting his Endless compact 6 pot in his 16" Enkei Tarmac rims no matter the offset and width! (As I can't quite remember them lol but they were by no means conservative specs)

[Chi]

U suck vin lol.

Still waiting for Kongfu to reply why he thinks +43 is the bestest offset.