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Saw a Volcano Grey Lux.today at Rosehill.My 1st.sighting of the CU2 on the road.
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 Originally Posted by Type R Positive
We all do mate, we all do....
Mazda has the right idea focusing on weight savings. I sincerely hope other manufacturers take note! 
Drove a mazda6 last week, weight wise don't think it helped the car at all.....
Front lifts when you accelerate from stop position even the slightest acceleration (badly) *weight
You can hear the motor rev it's **** off. *weight (higher compression) but due to reduced weight you can really hear it.....worst motor noise i've on a new car.
Total car feels light especially on a windy day you can feel the wind throw you around.
Not a good car if you are a driver.....Honda euro more of a drivers car, much more realistic and refined driving
Only good thing going for them is the quality of the dash, thats all......
They claim 8.5-8.8lt/100klm but i bet you air con on and full load on a hot summer day that figure would jump dramatically more like 12lt-14lt +/100klm, not a very efficient motor running 2.5ltr with 4 cylinders no matter if they reduced the weight.
A 2.5ltr 4 cylinder with turbo or 2.5ltr Five cylinder would of been a better choice especially with low compression and a turbo, much more efficient giving you a more realistic figure of 10.5-11ltr/100klm, no matter how much weight was on the car or if air con all day, even in the most extreme heat........seems like mazda relying on fuel efficiency to sell their mazda6 bad move if you ask me...weight very important to a car it's all about the gravity and weight distribution.
i also got a phone call today "Mazda announced a dramatic price cut on the Mazda6 as of today". They really arn't selling any at all.
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 Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Nah, still way down on power.
I would rather an Aurion. Toyota make damn fine cars.
True Aurion hands down over a mazda6....
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 Originally Posted by LXRY
Drove a mazda6 last week, weight wise don't think it helped the car at all.....
Front lifts when you accelerate from stop position even the slightest acceleration (badly) *weight
You can hear the motor rev it's **** off. *weight (higher compression) but due to reduced weight you can really hear it.....worst motor noise i've on a new car.
Total car feels light especially on a windy day you can feel the wind throw you around.
Sounds like the springs and/or damper are too soft. Similar problem to the old 2003 Corollas.
As for the motor noise, I had the same opinion even for the 1st gen Mazda6. The sound of the engine revving just makes me cringe and I back off, fearing that I will hurt the engine by revving it too much. Total opposite of the Euro where when you rev it, it sounds like it is asking you to rev it harder and harder.
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[QUOTE=aaronng;1817240]Sounds like the springs and/or damper are too soft. Similar problem to the old 2003 Corollas.
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My parents had a corolla and I always thought that it was the 1.8ltr just too much grunt for the size of the car, boy was it punchy, so much that mum didn't like driving it cause so punchy, touchy.....take off was amazing launched like a rocket from take off...very similar feeling to the mazda6 but I felt as if it was due to weight not so much springs/dampeners I could be wrong. Another reason I say it's weight is that I took it through a thourogh testing....under heavy braking springs/dampeners where quiet good, whole car should of dipped/lowered at the front but didn't.
And you are spot on about the motor reving to the stage that I too thought better take it easy cause sounds as if it would throw a rod or piston or something, lol.
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Honda Accord Euro CU2 / Lexus IS-F
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[quote=LXRY;1817300]
 Originally Posted by aaronng
My parents had a corolla and I always thought that it was the 1.8ltr just too much grunt for the size of the car, boy was it punchy, so much that mum didn't like driving it cause so punchy, touchy.....take off was amazing launched like a rocket from take off...very similar feeling to the mazda6 but I felt as if it was due to weight not so much springs/dampeners I could be wrong. Another reason I say it's weight is that I took it through a thourogh testing....under heavy braking springs/dampeners where quiet good, whole car should of dipped/lowered at the front but didn't.
Definately bad suspension. It was 4x4 spec it was that high. It used to float all over the place, and was just plain dangerous is some cases.
Engine was a ripper for sure!
Honda Accord Euro CU2 / Lexus IS-F
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 Originally Posted by LXRY
A 2.5ltr 4 cylinder with turbo or 2.5ltr Five cylinder would of been a better choice especially with low compression and a turbo, much more efficient giving you a more realistic figure of 10.5-11ltr/100klm, no matter how much weight was on the car or if air con all day, even in the most extreme heat........
I can see turbo's becoming more and more common actually.
On a side note, my CU2 is averaging around 9L/100kms. I don't even notice the aircon on or off. This engine is so sweet, you can't help it but plant it to listen to it singing.
 Originally Posted by LXRY
seems like mazda relying on fuel efficiency to sell their mazda6 bad move if you ask me...
Fuel efficiency seems to be the 'in' thing at the moment. All the manufacturers are doing it now.
 Originally Posted by LXRY
weight very important to a car it's all about the gravity and weight distribution.
That's what I love about the CU2. The car is soooo stable. It is amazing the work Honda did, and the results they got. Pity that it gained a bit of pork, but it doesn't make a difference to the car's performance.
Honda Accord Euro CU2 / Lexus IS-F
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The mazda' MZR engine is 2.5 litres - but has a low compression : 9:7:1 - which is just like the Mazda 3 Sp23' engine... that could explain why it needs to work really hard.. as for the 8.8 litre fuel consumption claim - depends on the car is driven.
the Mazda 6 is not convincing anyway...
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 Originally Posted by IVTECS4
The mazda' MZR engine is 2.5 litres - but has a low compression : 9:7:1 - which is just like the Mazda 3 Sp23' engine... that could explain why it needs to work really hard.. as for the 8.8 litre fuel consumption claim - depends on the car is driven.
the Mazda 6 is not convincing anyway...
Jeee...I thought it was high compression, you are right it's 9:7, well it's working it's ass off anyway.
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 Originally Posted by Type R Positive
I would rather an Aurion. Toyota make damn fine cars.
You wouldn't. I had one before the Honda and lets just say there is a LOT of quality issues with these cars including dash pad, centre console and door trims. The drivetrain (and power) was fantastic!
I bought the Aurion brand new and it spent 25 days over 10 months getting warranty work done to it and i am not alone.
The above shows when development budgets are constrained.. Strangley the dash pad issue is apparant in the Lexus as well!
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Damn X man, sounds like you got 'saturday special' car. This suprises me, because if you have a look at how toyota work and their global business with quality control.....
I've never had any issues what so ever with my Toyota's.
Come to think of it, my Honda's have been sweet also!!!
Honda Accord Euro CU2 / Lexus IS-F
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