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  1. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by beeza View Post
    Geez,I read that wrong didn't I...
    Ok,so
    - 15A switch mounted and hidden.
    - Then run a + and - cable from the PGMFI to the switch.That's it?

    I just have to find which wire is + and -
    )n my 96Ek1 Civic the PGMFI is behind the glovebox in the corner
    if u run + & - to the switch u will get dead short circuit when u turn on switch.

    just cut the power feed to the pump,ie yellow/green? wire wherever u can find it going to the rear of your car under the back seat,& attach the 2 cut ends to the switch,then it just connects this wire back together when u operate the switch.

  2. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsp26 View Post
    just in case he needs to know too, the other 4 wires at the pump are (and i don't know what they do as none of them affected the pump or sender/gauge when cutting)
    - Black
    - Black/White
    - Yellow
    - Green/Red
    i think it goes something like this ron

    black-ground for pump or sender
    black/white-as above but viceversa
    yellow-sender
    green/red-low fuel warning light.

    pump should have died when u cut one of the black wires,but because it grounds to the fuel pump bracket also,it was prob grounded somewhere else as well thru the fuel lines or tank contact to the chassis somewhere.

  3. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRXer View Post
    if u run + & - to the switch u will get dead short circuit when u turn on switch.

    just cut the power feed to the pump,ie yellow/green? wire wherever u can find it going to the rear of your car under the back seat,& attach the 2 cut ends to the switch,then it just connects this wire back together when u operate the switch.
    Gotcha.So no need for a relay,just cut the power wire and put a switch in there

  4. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by beeza View Post
    Gotcha.So no need for a relay,just cut the power wire and put a switch in there
    15A+ switch direct or small discreet switch operating a relay cut into the pump power wire.

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    Thanks mate!

  6. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECU-MAN View Post
    Disclaimer: The following is provided as a GUIDE ONLY, and neither myself nor Ozhonda take any responsibility for the outcomes of someone else doing the following. You follow these steps at your own risk!


    Aim: To get the car running again
    Required: 10mm socket, wratchet to suit, solder, solering iron, flat head screw driver.
    Steps: not many


    so your car starts fine, but after some driving it will stall and wont restart, or restart then stall again, this can be symptoms of the Main PGMFI Relay at fault, as well as other things like coil, ICM, but since the main relay is so easy to fix, why not start there.

    A good sign of the relay at fault is you might not hear the fuel pump prime for 5 seconds when you 1st turn on the IGN, ( it can still prime if the relay is faulty )
    also low or no fuel pressure.

    STEP 1: Locate the main PGMFI relay, you will find it under the dash, commonly the RHS but dont be fooled, lots of modles have them on the LHS, CRV for example you have to remove the glove box. the relay looks like this





    STEP 2: remove the relay, there will be one bolt with a 10mm head. unplug the wiring harness.

    Step 3: open the main relay, use a flat head screw driver to pry it open, do this evenly from both sides.






    Step 4: look for the dry solder joint, if you cant see it just reflow the solder on all the joins, add solder but not to much, allow the solder to melt and bond to the components. reflow the solder on every join, only takes 5 minutes.





    STEP 5: reasmeble the relay in revers to disasembly and refit to the vehicle.

    thats it !!!

    if your unsure of the Main PGMFI Relay location for your vehicle, just reply and im sure someone or myself will tell you.

    if you have fixed your relay and still have problems of not starting, start looking at your disributor, eg ICM, Coil. also the ignition switch


    Disclaimer: The following is provided as a GUIDE ONLY, and neither myself nor Ozhonda take any responsibility for the outcomes of someone else doing the following. You follow these steps at your own risk!
    for some reason the pics on my browser arent showing...

  7. #79
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    what can benefit from this, if the car is currently starting properly.. and i resolder all the joints ?

    will it start "better" in some way ? loll
    12.949 @ 107.71mph
    2.063 60ft on Advan AD08
    EKK20A 142.9kw on 98ron

    its not called stance if you're on spacers..

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    no,
    its just when your having starting issues
    Last edited by ECU-MAN; 24-10-2008 at 08:01 AM.

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    where is the relay located in the 94 dc2 vtir??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phamiii View Post
    where is the relay located in the 94 dc2 vtir??
    It's behind the driver's side kick panel below the the hood latch release.


  11. #83
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    having issues with my fuel priming etc for a couple of YEARS and I always thought it was my imobilizer playing up.. after it got REALLY bad and I couldnt start my car the other week, Kyle (KB) suggested doing THIS and it worked - been perfect ever since goddammitt !!

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    does anyone kno how much a new main relay cost?
    for dc2 vtir

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