Planned mods for D16y4

[grumpy rooster]

Far out man. Take a chill pill. The inference was there.

Yes it is never going to be majorly powerful, and yes in your eyes he is wasting his money, but it is HIS money. He said he knows that he will be told he is wasting his time but doesn't want to get the same old shit told to him. He knows all that. So you go and tell him he is wasting his time. Like thats helpful. Its horses for courses.

Should we start telling everyone who builds a B series engine they are crap and don't waste your money, get a K now?

[beeza]

The trick is to know your power goal.No use spending money on the d when afterwards your not going to be satisfied with it.If you promise youself you will keep it how it is then with those mods it will be a real nice car to drive.
And a stock b will still beat you,so if that dosen't bother you like it dosen't bother me then sweet.

[barefootbonzai]

lol, beeza actually said something i agree with ^^

He said he knows that he will be told he is wasting his time but doesn't want to get the same old shit told to him. He knows all that

Should probably stop for a sec and think... gees, i wonder y all these people would say such a thing....

Like myself, all them people giving them comments have probably already been there and tried it and have been highly dissapointed. Sure if you have money and want to be different go nuts.... but obviously from his post his not.

My issue is the amount of people on here that have never even touched a car, or have done what they are recommending -> giving advice to do it.

[barefootbonzai]

Should we start telling everyone who builds a B series engine they are crap and don't waste your money, get a K now?

If they are planing to spend over $10k worth of mods on their NA b-series build. Yes i would tell them they are wasting their money and should just get a K

[beeza]

I couldn't have done it without your help

[grumpy rooster]

lol, beeza actually said something i agree with ^^



Should probably stop for a sec and think... gees, i wonder y all these people would say such a thing....

Like myself, all them people giving them comments have probably already been there and tried it and have been highly dissapointed. Sure if you have money and want to be different go nuts.... but obviously from his post his not.

My issue is the amount of people on here that have never even touched a car, or have done what they are recommending -> giving advice to do it.

Are you saying I have never touched a car? Or done those mods to a car that may not be the best engine in the lineup? Maybe you shouldn't make so many assumptions.

Ok, back to the topic on hand. Don't touch the car because its a stupid idea and you will waste your money unlike any money you spend on a car.

[barefootbonzai]

last comment wasn't aimmed at you, but more to the d-series fan club of which 99% of them have stock civic and have no experience what so ever with modding honda's.

And yep, i agree don't waste your money on your car if you're on such a tight budget.

[VTECnique]

Thanks guys, yeah i did do alot of research before posting. Most of the mods i have described are reasonably cheap aswell. The thing with this setup too, if i do decide to go down the FI route, all id need to do is add a thicker headgasket, because most of the mods would work great with a turbo.

Keep in mind i will be doing most of the work myself, also fitting the Y8 gearbox & clutch, labour on the mods would absolutely kill me.

So ill keep the stock injectors, if they are 190cc, i dont plan to upgrade the fuel pump, iridium spark plugs & NGK wires. I should be able to pick up a Y4 head for cheap, main reason why im even considering these mods in the first place...

[tekung89]

save money to turbo the d series..

after spending on intake,exhaust,headers,clutch flywheel, ECU+tune and the labour to fit all these shit in.. you are at very best 15sec quartermile and say $2000-$3000 poorer..

However, if u are after minor gains.. d series modding suits u best.. but keep in mind that if u ever get $3k lying around.. turbo ur d series and with the above mods.. u will be a very happy man..

i think everyone is missing the point, his goal is to stay with his setup, keep reliability intact and give the engine a little bit more power. if his goal was to say run Xsecs down the track then i think he would've went an alternative direction ie. asked about conversions and turbo.

seeing that the heads out already as he mention, i reckon $$ labour would not be an issue. wat you would want to do is get the compression back up to a healthy state and from there ur mods like i/h/e/tb/im etc will give u more gains. like others have mention before, the most power u will get is from regrinding valves, shaving the head to up compression (a nice alternative way to raise compression without having to rip the block apart) and to assist the extra power gain i would definately recommend the y8 box.

LOL but like wateva i read before, if ur gona spend X amount of dollars on a D that will be as fast/cost jus as much as a B then why not jus engine swap it, this applies to B->K. but in ur case ur not even using up 1/4 of the amount a B swap would cost so jus go ahead buddy and let us know how it goes. LOL dont dissapoint the D-series lovers out there

[VTECnique]

last comment wasn't aimmed at you, but more to the d-series fan club of which 99% of them have stock civic and have no experience what so ever with modding honda's.

And yep, i agree don't waste your money on your car if you're on such a tight budget.

Since this is my first time modding my honda & i have no experience, I do want to keep price at a minimal, get to know whats what, then go from there. Is there something wrong with being different & not following the B/K swap road? I'm doing these mods for a modest street build, as i mentioned before nothing over the top, if i did that then yeah might aswell go a B. All our goals are different, maybe your goal is to have alot of power, my goal is for a nice lightly built D16.

I knew i would get flamed/diff opinions on here as soon as i started typing, I would have posted all this on another forum, the fact is since i live in australia, & not alot of ppl have modded a Y4, maybe there is someone else out there that would like to do the same & find out whats what & whats not for himself/herself, since there isnt a whole lot of information on how to mod a Y4, for the simple fact most ppl say do a conversion. If i wanted to do a conversion, i would have stated in the thread name. I appreciate the advice, really i do, but yeah i have heard it all before.

Wasting money? in my eyes, its not wasting money at all, a great investment i see it as. Most ppl that say to do a conversion, are not happy with what they have, i on the other hand am very happy with the D16Y4s performance & power. if i can get something better with what i have at a reasonable cost im willing to spend, hey mate im all for it.

[beeza]

I Love my y4 too man

Just needs a tune.

[barefootbonzai]

no need to get defensive bro, i'm just offering an honest opinion. i wish i knew more before i started building this and that. I know i wasted a lot of money doing "performance mods" back in the day and got no where. Just wish someone told me from day one that it's not really gonna make your car much faster.

but as beeza said, if you really think you're gonna be content with them little mods, go for gold. i just hope you don't ever look back and think, oh shit.... it wasn't even worth it...