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  1. #25
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    vt3c doesnt have a ebay spoon ecu chip
    im pretty sure he bought a full new ecu...from spoon

  2. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by [ricer] View Post
    vt3c doesnt have a ebay spoon ecu chip
    im pretty sure he bought a full new ecu...from spoon
    i'm pretty sure your right.. hence why i'm more curious.

    At the end of the day such generics are still tuned to a specific combination of parts unless like powerchip they have minor/medium tunes for stocki-ish cars which also become useless by the time you start adding bolt-ons...

    if there were big enough gains to outweigh the economy loss then why not.. why else do we modify cars in the first place
    Quote Originally Posted by Slow96GSR
    If 1 person has had bad luck with a product don’t condemn it until you yourself have tested it. Now if 10 pros have tried it and it sucked then I would trust their opinion.

  3. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsp26 View Post
    duno about you dude but i was getting like ~300km per 42l with the spoon when before it i was getting ~450km... now losing 150km per week for 6months can easily get you a good ecu and tune....

    anyways just some friendly advise from you as i went through the same and was in denial until i saw the dyno of the spoon versus p30 jdm
    MY civic aint a daily driver anymore.. and i rarely fill up the tank so I dont know how many kms I am getting out of a tank - i was just measuring for 20L.. but strangely my stock ECU threw out a lot of fuel through the exhaust so it was pretty rich allready for some reason.

    Quote Originally Posted by dsp26 View Post
    : would love to see it... would have been better before your cams though...
    yes, for the comparison on a stock engine it would be better, but i was always going to have cam upgrade eventually. I will run the AFR's so it should still give you an indication of what each ECU is trying to do..

    Quote Originally Posted by dsp26 View Post
    admittedly i can't actually remember if mine was spoon or skunk2 but O2 sensor was definitely disabled as unplugging the O2 sensor didn't throw any codes. i did however get an ELD cel because i tried a p30 variant with Knock sensor when my car wasn't equipped
    Knock sensor and ELD are un-related. but yeah sounds like the AUS vs JDM wiring and O2 sensor issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by dsp26 View Post
    9000rpm redline
    5200rpm x-over

    the jdm p30-j02 i had was:
    8800rpm redline
    5875rpm x-over

    the jdm p30 felt (and looked) so much smoother over stock with the x-over moved up a tad from 5400rpm...
    That's interesting.. perhaps your 'spoon' chip was for B18C not B16.. My P30-J00 had VTEC switch at 5,800 I think.. SPOON ECU is at 5800 also.. hrm i'll have to check again but I know it's DEFINATELY NOT 5200.

    anyway i'll post up dyno results asap.
    Last edited by VT3C; 12-09-2008 at 10:55 AM.

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