yea, i agree, the pehdal goes stiff when i pedal the brake when the car'f off. when i turn it on, the pedal goes right to the floor. i did what u sed, pumped it heaps of times but lol, still goes to the floor. when the car;s on all i hear is a whoosing hydraulic sound from the brake piston (this was after i changed to the new ones). B4 with the old pads, (their worn to half the depth of the new ones) it only took say max of 5 cm pedal stroke to apply full brake force. now, with the new pads its all the way to the floor. wtf eh? you think i screwed up my cailipers.? thnx dude