[Euro] Hondata Update

[EUR003act]

My flash is fine. I've been driving my car for 9 months with it. Its on the money.

Now I have the RBC and the reflash with a 5000rpm vtec and 7600rpm redline, when i shift from 1-2nd Im right in the money zone ( peak power) and it can and does spin the fronts in the dry a bit. I cant believe the the difference the RBC has made to the power delivery, throttle response and feel. Its just more fun.

I 100% agree with Yfin on the overall jtune issue, they promised a lot and doesnt sound like they delivered to their first extreme customers.

My experience has been fine though. I would have flashed it back if I had any concerns but I love it.

i would have preferred a proper tunable ecu but thats just not happening at the moment.

just curious you say your experience has been fine...

didnt they fry your ecu or something? and you couldnt drive your car for a week or two? :S

[Suntzu]

Oh yeah that happened. Took a week for them to sort it out.
I mean my experience with the actual results of the flash has been fine.

[Pumped]

Is the mild flash tune actually readily available now?

[Crapdaz]

Is the mild flash tune actually readily available now?

the mild flash has been around for a long time already.

just that depending on your location, you will most likely need to ship your key/immobiliser and ecu to them.

[snYpz]

I think i will forget abt rbc and mild flash. All i want is more response on take off and lower rpms. o well, guess i will save some extra cash then

[Chris_F]

What I'm waiting for is some feedback from members with the e-manage ultimate. If the ecu doesn't "re-learn" with the ultimate it's probably the most viable option at the moment.

There's also the HKS F-con V pro which is a bit more advanced than the ultimate (and more expensive). It's a piggy back aswell which apparently works just fine with drive by wire throttle.

[EUR003act]

anyone want to commment on the cheapest and easiest way to change my rev limit...

i know greddy e-manage ultimate has the option to, but does that function work on the euro?

any other cheaper options?

[snYpz]

I think i will pull the trigger for the mild reflash.

Problem is, the reflash now takes place in the US at Hondata; which apparently improves the success rate. Only problem for me is that I only have till mid to early January before i take off to Adelaide to work for a year. So either it gets done now or will have to wait till i come back.

Will let you guys know how it pans out.

BTW. There is heaps of praise for the hondata reflash for the TSX. Is that similar to the flash that we get, is it the mild or extreme flash etc? I have no idea

[Chris_F]

anyone want to commment on the cheapest and easiest way to change my rev limit...

i know greddy e-manage ultimate has the option to, but does that function work on the euro?

any other cheaper options?

I contacted ALN about this, and apparently the emanage ultimate has the ability to change the rev-limit but the function doesn't work with the accord euro.

I also asked him about the ECU re-learning and he said he had the ultimate in his car for 7 months with no power drop or driveability issues.

After doing some more research there appears to be a difference in the way you tune the car with the ultimate compared to some of the cheaper piggybacks like the Apexi VAFC. The e-manage doesn't just send a different voltage to the stock ECU. Instead the e-manage reads/intercepts the voltage from the standard ECU and creates its own output voltage which is then sent directly to the injectors.

This would probably explain why the standard ECU doesn't relearn the tune when using the ultimate.

The feedback from ALN is enough to convince me the e-manage ultimate is worthwhile. There's no other mods I can think of that can provide 10-15kw atw for $1500.

I'll let everyone know how it all goes...

[EUR003act]

I contacted ALN about this, and apparently the emanage ultimate has the ability to change the rev-limit but the function doesn't work with the accord euro.

I also asked him about the ECU re-learning and he said he had the ultimate in his car for 7 months with no power drop or driveability issues.

After doing some more research there appears to be a difference in the way you tune the car with the ultimate compared to some of the cheaper piggybacks like the Apexi VAFC. The e-manage doesn't just send a different voltage to the stock ECU. Instead the e-manage reads/intercepts the voltage from the standard ECU and creates its own output voltage which is then sent directly to the injectors.

This would probably explain why the standard ECU doesn't relearn the tune when using the ultimate.

The feedback from ALN is enough to convince me the e-manage ultimate is worthwhile. There's no other mods I can think of that can provide 10-15kw atw for $1500.

I'll let everyone know how it all goes...

cheers for that buddy! good info!

lol TODA headers... 10-12kw atw gain... $1500...

[johnprocter]

lol wouldnt stage2 camshafts get you more than that for around $1500 installed?

[snYpz]

The feedback from ALN is enough to convince me the e-manage ultimate is worthwhile. There's no other mods I can think of that can provide 10-15kw atw for $1500.

I'll let everyone know how it all goes...

hmmm, if thats the case, i might holdback and wait and see how you go with the e-manage. Looks like the e-manage might have more gains as compared to the hondata flash.

I will be really keen to know whats necessary Chris and how all this goes...will also look for the e-manage thread too

I have been going around in circles!!