[CU2] funny noise from the engine when slow accelerate

[swork]

i took the honda rep for a drive last week and he confirmed my car was pinging and said he will log a job with honda in japan. He confirmed honda japan were aware of the problem and that they were working on a fix, no timeframe given. he said it affected a small number of cars.

if anyone else has the problem ask your dealer to get the honda dsm down and test drive your car so they can log a fault with honda japan. the more the better for us.

[Type R Positive]

They told me to take the car this Wednesday for a check up. They have also offered me a replacement car while they diagnose the problem. Fingers cross, they give me a type R!!!!

I didn't know they made a Jazz type R!

[DBH]

I also have an engine pinging problem in my 2009 Euro, which is only 3 mths old. Initially the pinging was only audible when accelerating (@ 2-3000rpm); now it is almost all the time...

Dealership has acknowledged that there is a pinging problem and that Honda Australia is aware of it, however with no fix (no news there for you).

I have been told that the DSM will be coming to have a look - hopefully soon. I too got the line that I should use 98 RON, which is all I have been using since day one.

I can't believe Honda still sell this car when they know there is a problem. Subaru stopped production of their turbo engines early this year until they fixed similar engine knocking problem. Same with Toyota Aurion. At least these manufacturers had the guts to publicly admit the problem and fix it.

My experience with trying to get this problem fixed has put me off Honda and there so called quality product and after sales service.

I have also had a steering problem - annoying rubbing noise on full turn at slow speed. Dealership says it is normal and that the noise is coming the EPS motor. I guess they will tell me all the rattles coming from the dash and the driver's window are also normal...along with the loud thumping noise I get when I turn the AC vents off.

Keen to hear how others get on with fixing the enging knocking.

[eur001]

I was in Perth last week and went with a friend to a dealer on the Leach Highway. My friend was interested in the CU2. We chatted with a youngish salesperson who seemed to know his stuff. Then I asked him directly about whether the pinging problem had been solved. He paused and then acknowledged that there was a pinging problem. But then he went on to say that Honda had solved it as they had discovered that owners had actually been fuelling up with 91 RON ULP instead of 95 RON PULP.

Well, I thought to myself: 1. He confirmed the existence of the pinging problem; and 2. He still wanted to sell my friend the CU2 no matter what.

So your friend end up buying the car??

[SPQR]

^^^ No.

[Anth]

Pinging.

I also have it, 2009 Accord Euro Automatic. Happens when under load at about 1800- 2500 rpm. At 1000km, service guy heard it immediately, said that should wait for 10,000km service because loosening up of engine may correct it. Car has only ever had 98 unleaded, so I doubt it is related to that.

Car is eerily quiet anyway, much quieter than the new Mazda6 I test drove, so it is most annoying on the freeway in cruise because engine sits at 2000 rpm and pings the whole way!

Have written to Honda.

[Bobjones]

I am actually about to commence discussions with the legal fraternity as this is now beyond a joke. My car for example has never had anyone with any decent knowledge (IMHO) to ascertain the problem, nor have they provided ANY updates on the progress of ANY solution. Additionally, I am yet to see why I should need to run 98 octane in a 95 octane car, running 95 makes it worse, nor should I as a consumer be inconvenienced due to a manufacturers royal stuff up.

Honda constantly make out that it is a minor issue, and salespeople are worse as admit of problem yet think it is not major, yet this "minor issue" is still to be resolved though Honda Australia has been made aware of this for over 4 months now...

I am also getting my original letter translated to Japanese (my brother-in-law is Japanese which helps) and will be sending it to Japan as it would seem that no action has occured on the home front other than Honda waving the sales banner to generate cashflow when they really should be looking at the underlying problem, you can't selll shit.

I for one am currently, and will continue to be outspoken on this issue and ensure that every person I know never buy a Honda ever again, not a car, motorbike not even a friggin Generator...

Oh and for those that want action and NOT just words and a piece of paper not worth a pinch of pi$$...

http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/contactform/30607

[DBH]

Well, Honda Australia finally phoned me today about the pinging (Ken Sheppard if anyone is interested in talking to him as well).

I was given a lovely story about how Honda cares and everything is being done to find a fix to the pinging (however a timeframe for the fix could not be provided - I was actually advised it could be months if not longer). I was further advised that the constant audible pinging will not damage the engine! I asked that Honda put this in writing and they advised they would - to put my little mind at rest. I found this fascinating given the actual car manual (p334 I think) states that engine pinging can damage the mechanical components etc. I did point out this contradiction.

Apparently there is no safety issue either and therefore they would not meet my request for a loaner while a fix was being investigated.

I was informed that it's really only a noise issue from my perspective and that I shouldn't worry about it - they ackowledged that it may be annoying and reduce the level of enjoyment I might get out of the car.

I went on to provide some very honest feedback and how I will never purchase another Honda. Perhaps Honda may wish to rethink their ad campaign for this car; it is not about "precision" anymore, it's about "precision in stuffing it up".

I got the impression from Ken that he actually reads the posts on this forum. Maybe we should all give him a nice big wave hello

Well I am over all this. I had a problem with an IAC motor in a Holden many years ago. We had an auto and the engine would always stall. Holden simply replaced the IAC motor (about eight times all up). They never found a fix for that problem. My advice to all is consider getting out while you can - before the reputation of this car is really in the shit.

[unity]

Pinging.

I also have it, 2009 Accord Euro Automatic. Happens when under load at about 1800- 2500 rpm. At 1000km, service guy heard it immediately, said that should wait for 10,000km service because loosening up of engine may correct it. Car has only ever had 98 unleaded, so I doubt it is related to that.

That's a new one. Could you please tell me which dealer told you this/

[The X Man]

I will never purchase another Honda.

I hear ya and agree with you. All these dickwads that say Honda is the best seriously need their heads read as it's a rubbish claim. Honda's are no better then most of the others.. Oh, my 2006 Lancer with 25,000kms has never had a warranty claim and it still hasn't got rattles yet it cost half that of the Euro!

I'll stick with Mitsubishi from now on.

[Type R Positive]

All you guys have the auto?

[eur001]

I am actually about to commence discussions with the legal fraternity as this is now beyond a joke. My car for example has never had anyone with any decent knowledge (IMHO) to ascertain the problem, nor have they provided ANY updates on the progress of ANY solution. Additionally, I am yet to see why I should need to run 98 octane in a 95 octane car, running 95 makes it worse, nor should I as a consumer be inconvenienced due to a manufacturers royal stuff up.

Honda constantly make out that it is a minor issue, and salespeople are worse as admit of problem yet think it is not major, yet this "minor issue" is still to be resolved though Honda Australia has been made aware of this for over 4 months now...

I am also getting my original letter translated to Japanese (my brother-in-law is Japanese which helps) and will be sending it to Japan as it would seem that no action has occured on the home front other than Honda waving the sales banner to generate cashflow when they really should be looking at the underlying problem, you can't selll shit.

I for one am currently, and will continue to be outspoken on this issue and ensure that every person I know never buy a Honda ever again, not a car, motorbike not even a friggin Generator...

Oh and for those that want action and NOT just words and a piece of paper not worth a pinch of pi$$...

http://au.todaytonight.yahoo.com/contactform/30607

Hi Bob,

I am all with you!! At the moment, i have no direction...dont know what to do next. If you need any case for reference, you can quote me(let me know if you need my info).
If you need any help, just let me know.
By the way, i sent three emails to Honda Audtralia with no reply. Dealer ask me to "just" wait.