thicker sways noticable handling difference?

[dahon]

hey guys, just wondering...
im bored and just decided to throw out a question...

atm im running a 13mm rear sway (civic) and was thinking of going the full asr+ctr rear sway bar kit. just wondering what the handling differences would be? (not thinking of upgrading the front...)
what would be the cars handling characteristics with a thick sway, i know it would be stiffer thus the rear would stay (even more oversteer), but would it only be noticable on tighter turns or overall? small or large roundabouts? atm my handling is good (running thicker tyres aswell) but would it be worth the extra effort and cash for the larger sway?
how would the driving feel differ between the two aswell?

cheers for any input.

[Limbo]

yeah you notice the difference right away. The rear feels alot more solid going thru corners, even light ones. It can also promote oversteer depending on your setup, i know i can push my rear to drift out abit at times depending on what rear tyres i'm running

[dahon]

ahh i see i see
so it promotes even more confidence in the cars handling even going slow?
i always thought it is more effective with greater turn in, the light ones arent really noticable but i guess i gotta see for myself aye hehehe
cheers limbo!

[Limbo]

yeah you will notice the difference on any turn with the larger swaybar, and even more so with the ASR.

While your at it i'd recommend LCAs they certainly made a difference for me.
ALso stopped those creaking noises all larger swaybar people have.

I have the 24mm whiteline bar + ASR, but since i got one piece at a time i noticed things at each upgrade

[55EXX]

is that the whiteline bar that is 22mm in diameter but on the harder setting gives the same stiffness as a 24mm? didn't think they made 24mm bars in the rear for eg. i have the 22mm bar in the rear the difference is night and day! every corner a higher speed can be easily maintained and also turn in is sharper and body roll reduced

[Limbo]

i had a custom order and i got an EK

[55EXX]

wow. did you call and ask? does it still have the various end holes for different stiffness settings? what front sway do you run? how much for just the bar and i guess new bushes?

[Limbo]

yeah it has 2 hole settings. 22mm to 24mm. I run the standard EK4 front bar 26mm i think?

I got it ordered from EGSI - underground imports quite a while ago. waited about 2 weeks for them to come in.

[55EXX]

awesome! wish i knew before i ordered mine. when i get a asr i might step it up. thanks limbo

[dahon]

yeh im sure you wouldnt really need to upgrade the stock ek4 front sway... that ones thick enough...
cheers limbo for the advice
ill be going ctr bar + asr when i buy and then start to build my project later next year
=)

[drated]

just to throw this into the mix how much of a difference will it make if u already have say coilovers or springs ... how much of a difference will the sways and asr rear subframe make ?

[Mugen Civic]

still there is a difference. Especially in the long fast bends.

+1 on the ASR brace and 22mm RSB.