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    Brisbane
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    380GT,XTrailSTR
    OK i'm going to recap

    1) Built engine
    2) Belt snaps 5000KMs later
    3) Put back together


    Setup is exactly the same EXCEPT the following changes from Step 1 to 3...

    - Idle Fuel Pressure (Vacuum line on) from 40psi to 34psi
    - Dizzy timing from 14* now retarded ALL THE WAY?!?!
    - All valves replaced
    - Valve seats cut again (Again)
    - cyl compression went down from 230psi to 200psi

    Now ive seen 2 engines lose power before from having the valve sinking in the seat (a 4age20v and sr20) and i was discounting that memory until recently 2 separate people/workshops reminded me that B-series engines make power in the head and that a sunk seat will lose power... my valve seats were reseated twice and chances are its beyond the Honda limit of 10 thou...

    So tell me is the below powerband loss a result of valve seating? Plus the fact that dizzy timing had to be retarded aaaaaaalllll the way....
    i'm losing my patience. Had i known this was going to happen I would have just sourced a head from here....

    These are the justifications i was given:
    *230psi to 200psi cyl pressure drop
    - Non oem valve replacements.. "may have a bit more of a dish"...
    - Fair enough but 30psi is ****ing huge

    * Valves sinking in seat
    - "Had to be done"
    - Which is fair enough... but Honda specs limit it to 0.010" otherwise needs to get re-seated. and that minute amount won't look "sunk in"

    * Different powerband on second pic)
    - "The manifoldand throttlebody you put on isn't designed for it, if you take it off you get it (power) back"
    - OK I did that.. made less power... was 91wkw but the curve changed back to how it was

    Now i'm not ****ing stupid... i'm getting irritated because:
    - I refuse to believe a reputable workshop would try to justify these as so...
    - "tinkering" the dizzy and fpr to gain 2wkw additional peak doesn't equal the 5-8wkw i've lost from 2000-7000rpm.... and the fact the dizzy had to be retarded all the way is a ****ing huge diference.






    Last edited by dsp26; 16-12-2008 at 06:06 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slow96GSR
    If 1 person has had bad luck with a product don’t condemn it until you yourself have tested it. Now if 10 pros have tried it and it sucked then I would trust their opinion.

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