NEW 2009 Euro Luxury Auto Pinging

[djg]

First time writing on this site. Interesting reading this thread.

Purchased my 09 Euro in July 08 - auto.

Pinging or rattling type sound developed within a 1 or 2 thousand klms. Currently nearly 8,000 klms & problem seems to be be less frequent but still there! Not sure if the engine loosening up abit is helping things.

I use Shell V-Power normally & sound is occuring around the 2 to 3 thousand rev mark. Does occur more under load (as mentioned by others) & more when colder or after a restart when already warm, then problem eases with driving somewhat.

Up for 10k service this month & will definitely raise the concern with the service centre & report anything back of use. When I raised it briefly last time the guy at the service centre tried to tell me it was the v-tec or variable cam that causes some rattle???? Not sure of that.

Also had a tinny rattle develop in the rear seat / shelf area (as previously mentioned by someone), twice, but was repaired by Honda x2, by pulling apart & realigning the rear seat supports - at least that is what I was told. If it happens again I will insist on a more permanent repair.

Someone commented on slow acceleration on their model. I noted this also but again, as the klms have been done the performance has picked up. Possibly again due to the engine loosening up abit. Given the weight of this car & being a revvy 4 cyl, the paddles & 's' mode do get some working as the useful power of the engine is higher up the rev range!

Just some observations that might be of interest.

Otherwise happy with car. Just didn't expect Jap built Honda to have problems such as these & those mentioned by others.

[Type R Positive]

Also had a tinny rattle develop in the rear seat / shelf area (as previously mentioned by someone), twice, but was repaired by Honda x2, by pulling apart & realigning the rear seat supports - at least that is what I was told. If it happens again I will insist on a more permanent repair.

http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=698636

[VIDSEURO]

First time writing on this site. Interesting reading this thread.

Purchased my 09 Euro in July 08 - auto.

Pinging or rattling type sound developed within a 1 or 2 thousand klms. Currently nearly 8,000 klms & problem seems to be be less frequent but still there! Not sure if the engine loosening up abit is helping things.

I use Shell V-Power normally & sound is occuring around the 2 to 3 thousand rev mark. Does occur more under load (as mentioned by others) & more when colder or after a restart when already warm, then problem eases with driving somewhat.

Up for 10k service this month & will definitely raise the concern with the service centre & report anything back of use. When I raised it briefly last time the guy at the service centre tried to tell me it was the v-tec or variable cam that causes some rattle???? Not sure of that.

Also had a tinny rattle develop in the rear seat / shelf area (as previously mentioned by someone), twice, but was repaired by Honda x2, by pulling apart & realigning the rear seat supports - at least that is what I was told. If it happens again I will insist on a more permanent repair.

Someone commented on slow acceleration on their model. I noted this also but again, as the klms have been done the performance has picked up. Possibly again due to the engine loosening up abit. Given the weight of this car & being a revvy 4 cyl, the paddles & 's' mode do get some working as the useful power of the engine is higher up the rev range!

Just some observations that might be of interest.

Otherwise happy with car. Just didn't expect Jap built Honda to have problems such as these & those mentioned by others.

Hi Djg

please read the following.

1.Please take your Euro to your dealer first.
2.Then submit your concern through the Honda Web site using your (VIN)

I have spoken to Mr. Ken Sheppard on Friday 23/1/09 on mobile.
he also sent this e-mail to me.

Further to our phone conversation relating to the operational sound in your Honda Accord Euro, we wish to advise the following.

As you are aware the condition with your vehicle has not been assessed by the dealer as yet and therefore we are unable to confirm whether or not the condition you are experiencing is similar to some isolated reports we have received previously.

These reports are in regard to an engine operational sound, which is linked to fuel quality/specification and the electronic emissions management system, has been confirm to be from a combustion sound taking place after the programmed ignition, namely a “post combustion noise”.

As this condition takes place after the programmed ignition and with the piston on its downward stroke, there is no detrimental force or impact within the engine in your vehicle.

We appreciate this sound causes concern to some owners and as a result Honda Motors has been working on the matter and anticipates we will have a revised management program available for customer vehicles around mid to late February.

Regards
HONDA AUSTRALIA PTY LTD


Ken Sheppard
Client Relations Specialist
Customer Services
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Also if you are running in your car remember to give it some.

The Euro engine will most likely loosen up after a few thounsand clicks.
With mine it all comes together nicely at 4,000RPM____ Yooo Mama...
That's why i bought the bloody thing.

Anyhow i sincerely wish all of you the very best and try not to let it kill
you through worry.

Cheers an Beers
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Thanks
Vid

[Bobjones]

I was contacted by my Dealer yesterday to let me know that a "software upgrade" is on its way from Honda Japan, and that I would be contacted again early March to have the problem rectified.

Glad my dealer is on the ball, seems Honda Australia and our best mate Heinz should take a permanent holiday...

And Vidseuro, I think you need to get in a fast car if you think this goes like a cut snake above 4,000rpm....

[VIDSEURO]

I was contacted by my Dealer yesterday to let me know that a "software upgrade" is on its way from Honda Japan, and that I would be contacted again early March to have the problem rectified.

Glad my dealer is on the ball, seems Honda Australia and our best mate Heinz should take a permanent holiday...

And Vidseuro, I think you need to get in a fast car if you think this goes like a cut snake above 4,000rpm....

Hi Bob

Most likely a new computer or software upgrade will be offered by Honda.
Lets hope it does the job.
The Euro produces its best power from 4,000 rpm, maybe your'e experience is different to mine.
My car has 2,500 on the clock so most likely by 8,000km's the engine will
loosen up like a sun parched drover who's had 9 beers and cant find his horse.

[Bobjones]

Hi Bob

Most likely a new computer or software upgrade will be offered by Honda.
Lets hope it does the job.
The Euro produces its best power from 4,000 rpm, maybe your'e experience is different to mine.
My car has 2,500 on the clock so most likely by 8,000km's the engine will
loosen up like a sun parched drover who's had 9 beers and cant find his horse.

I was being sarcastic, an upgrade would result in more power, better economy etc, this is a fix, nothing more, thus calling it an upgrade is an oxymoron.

Also re the power, N/A car's have none, granted the Honda is efficient, its no 400awkw Evo, the Euro far from makes me scream with excitement, it goes from A-B...

[VIDSEURO]

I was being sarcastic, an upgrade would result in more power, better economy etc, this is a fix, nothing more, thus calling it an upgrade is an oxymoron.

Also re the power, N/A car's have none, granted the Honda is efficient, its no 400awkw Evo, the Euro far from makes me scream with excitement, it goes from A-B...

No worries Bob

Mate the Euro although it has 148Kw in power it's used to haul the extra weight the car has gained from the previous model.
Anyhow it has that x factor, externally and internally, definitely not a boring car to look at, i catch myself having a peek when i go shopping.
Possibly im slightly vain, either way who cares.
being happy is what matters to me, so i figured i could be in a Honda.
And you know im right...

[SteveH]

I was being sarcastic, an upgrade would result in more power, better economy etc, this is a fix, nothing more, thus calling it an upgrade is an oxymoron.

Also re the power, N/A car's have none, granted the Honda is efficient, its no 400awkw Evo, the Euro far from makes me scream with excitement, it goes from A-B...

Bob, I've been in a standard Evo 9 and it was well and truly quick enough for me. Couldn't imagine what it would be like with more than double the power.

[denot]

^^^ just a quick question...

Just realise that my civic sports auto has weight to power ratio of 1:11.35, while the euro std auto has 1:10.5.

Does this means the euro std auto will be slower than civic sports?

[chris41]

I believe the Euro Standard 6MTs 0-100 time to be 7.8secs and the auto version is in the 8s, from memory the Civic Sport MT does a high 8. I purchased the Euro but considered the CivicSport also.

[denot]

^^^ just a quick question...

Just realise that my civic sports auto has weight to power ratio of 1:11.35, while the euro std auto has 1:10.5.

Does this means the euro std auto will be slower than civic sports?

WHOOPSSS ignore this... its obviously shown that Euro std auto is faster

[Euro_CU2]

Either im deaf of the pinging sound you's are talking is hardly noticeable to me...
Maybe its just me.