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							zdster and steve88 proved that general knowledge can be wrong. so still would like some source for that. sent you a pm, didnt get a reply. hmm..
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by Q_ball   Go search on the forums for your source,This has been covered so many times that its become general knowledge >.<
 
 Not sure about state by state differences.
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		S P A M | W O R K SWith our special rotational tires, it will allow you to drive very fast. - JK Tyre
 
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							so in NSW, having non projector lights and using HID is illegal?
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							I'd also like to know that, and I'd also like to know if it is a good idea having HID's sitting in stock OEM ED headlights. Will there be a large disturbance to other drivers and will my own vision be affected?
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							if you have any defects hennesay im an rta examiner bring it to me ccheers
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							I have HIDs and yes they are illegal, although i have exceptional night vision when they r in use!
 Most new model cars now come with HID'S from factory, so really who's to say that they're really illegal?
 
 The way i see it is, if you add modifications to ur car then yes they are defectable no matter what it is, whether u've lowered it, the  size of the wheels, the profile of the tyre, exhaust, extractors, CAI, tints.. you name it....
 
 There is no such term as modifying it legally LOL... i doubt anyone does that nowadays, unless the have an engineering certificate to prove otherwise.
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							so..if i put a aftermarket cd player in i can get defected?
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	I belive its only illegal if the car wasnt originally designed for them. So BMW's, Subaru's etc, that come with HID's from the factory, its perfectly fine, other wise they would never be able to sell those vehicles.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by MZXO7K   I have HIDs and yes they are illegal, although i have exceptional night vision when they r in use!
 Most new model cars now come with HID'S from factory, so really who's to say that they're really illegal?
 
 The way i see it is, if you add modifications to ur car then yes they are defectable no matter what it is, whether u've lowered it, the  size of the wheels, the profile of the tyre, exhaust, extractors, CAI, tints.. you name it....
 
 There is no such term as modifying it legally LOL... i doubt anyone does that nowadays, unless the have an engineering certificate to prove otherwise.
 
 I also think its legal to have HID's on a car that didnt come with them out of the factory, aslong as you have head lamps designed for them, ie after market head lights, most likely a projector type light set up.
 
 Now this is going off what mates that have been defected for them before are telling me, and this applies in the NT. NFI about other states.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							if it affect the performance of the car then yes.
 thats what i read in the VSS? document file in pdf from vicroads.
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		S P A M | W O R K SWith our special rotational tires, it will allow you to drive very fast. - JK Tyre
 
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							defects dont have to bee what your car came out with. my mates impreza got defected for having a towbar (out of factory) that was deemed to cover part of his rear plate.
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	That sounds like he got a grumpy old **** of a copper, or he was being stupid and they used any excuse to get him off the road. Technically, if it was a Subaru fitted item, and the car got defected due to it, then the car should not have been sold from new with that accessory fitted.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by steve88   defects dont have to bee what your car came out with. my mates impreza got defected for having a towbar (out of factory) that was deemed to cover part of his rear plate. 
 However, if it was some thing fitted after market, ie by the dealer, or even a previous owner, then it may indeed be a defect.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							so you guys think i should get a hid?? coz if i should even though its a defect, im gonna order a 8000k one from over seas lol... still confused
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
							
						
				
					
						
							wait...how did a DIY request for if anyone knows how to install HID's on ED's go to this???
 *PALM-FACE*
 
 First- HID installs are pretty easy but if you're not confident don't do it, get Ben (Bennjamin) to do it (minimal cost, insurance its 100% and optimally running)
 
 Second- HID's are a defect if they're not in the a special headlight projector thing and to be frank i dont think there are any Headlight Projectors for them (even on ebay).
 
 You can get HID's and put them in your standard thing (like i am gonna have to) but its likely that it will blind people (I don't really wana go HID's but i may, if i do i do only plan to go to 4-6000k)
 
 (Second and a Half) Why is it you want HID's? If you want it bad enough the RISK of DEFECTS will not stop you (Just like the risk of loosing my license has not stopped me from taking Turbo cars around the block
  ) 
 as MZXO7K said almost anything you put on a car to make it from STANDARD to NON STANDARD can = Defect, ASM magazine sometime in the past had a letter from a very angry person whom (to cut it short) had just had a shitload of work done to his Rx7 and had it ALL CERTIFIED....he copped a canary for EVERYTHING that was CERTIFIED!!!
 
 Third- In hignsight you can probably find some UBER 1337 BULBS like the american's have/do and it will provide you with plenty of vision @ night and if need be for late night runs get some Foggies.
 
 Fourth- Goodluck
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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 that mikey G guy is the biggest shit talker ive ever met..
 in the space of 15minutes he sold two sets of wheels. claims a guy under the username DNT-CRY bought them!
 
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
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