haven't changed swaybar or installed camber kit. (I'm yet to look into the camber kit). The ride is really not noticably different from the standard 17's. The King springs certainly give it a firmer ride though. I would liken it to driving a std Euro, then driving a Mazda 6. The 6 has a more raw racey feel to the suspension, a very similar feel to what I've now got from fitting the Kings.