Help in Tuning the AMP

[CRXDEL501]

mine dont, but outa times did.

man.. jus give the settings i said a go.

your speakers wont blow

fade forward is using the head unit to adjust the amount of sound coming from the front to rears.. so you might want more in the front or rear.

also forgot to mention, while tuning, it may be a good idea to disconnect the rears when doing the fronts, and vice versa.. jus so you can hear them properly!

sorry i didnt mention that earlier. thats just something i do

[arverson]

i wouldnt recommend any settings. i wont even say a general setting guide as theres no 1 setting thats a be-all & end-all that works for ALL systems/cars. thats the point i was tryna get across really. what crxdel likes in his car might not be whats best for yours. you need someone with good ears to help ya tune it in person.

but crxdel explained fading to ya. clipping is basically your system showing signs of extra stress. normally you'd notice distortion first, with clipping being the extreme latter effect. if your speakers are going straight into playing a clipped sound then, thats bad.

im just saying be careful thats all

[CRXDEL501]

i wouldnt recommend any settings. i wont even say a general setting guide as theres no 1 setting thats a be-all & end-all that works for ALL systems/cars. thats the point i was tryna get across really. what crxdel likes in his car might not be whats best for yours. you need someone with good ears to help ya tune it in person.


im just saying be careful thats all

i agree totally that there is no one setting. every car is different yep.

[rahul]

try decreasing the crossover a bit. you will get more bass but it will also decrease the power handling capacity of your speaker

so you have gain to control the right amount of power going into the speaker
LP/HP & flat to control the crossover cut off (ie frequencies played by the speaker). It will still play the frequencies below or above the cross over points but at lower volumes. typically -6db or -12 db for hp, depending on the amp.

your amp has a variable crossover point. so by crossing over at a lower point, you are allowing the speaker to play lower frequencies with out the amp cutting them off. as i said before, this will reduce their power handling capacity because they are playing a much wider range of frequencies. hence you dont have a magical speaker playing everything in high end systems.

typically for 6in splits you can HP them at 60-80 hz
for 6X9's HP them around the same.

so play around with gain and cross over frequencies till you find a sweet spot.

[CRXDEL501]

try decreasing the crossover a bit. you will get more bass but it will also decrease the power handling capacity of your speaker



typically for 6in splits you can HP them at 60-80 hz
for 6X9's HP them around the same.

how come you'd wanna play bass through splits? speakers that are generally not designed to play bass?
when you can play 6x9s with bass, and have more treble in the front.
yeah personal preference i spose, but i value the life of my speakers.

[rahul]

how come you'd wanna play bass through splits? speakers that are generally not designed to play bass?
when you can play 6x9s with bass, and have more treble in the front.
yeah personal preference i spose, but i value the life of my speakers.

think your getting a bit confused here...

6X9 bass isnt really bass...you need a sub for that.

to answer your question. treble is term used for higher frequencies, that's what your tweeter is for. your woofer plays midbass. if you have a 6 in woofer.. it can safely be crossed at 60-80 hz dependent of the speaker.

so taking a 6 in spilts for eg...generally the tweeter(treble) is crossed around 2.5-3kz and woofer(mid bass) is crossed at 60-80hz and the sub(bass) is LP'd at 60-80 hz.

incorrect gains kill speakers more than often..if you set the gains right, they'll happily play all day even at higher volumes.

[outatime]

it turns out that the best setting for me is setting the 6x9 rears and front speakers & splits to both FLAT.

but i'm not sure about the frequency settings... should i set the frequencies at the same rate? the rears are at 80Hz and the fronts are about 100Hz.

[CRXDEL501]

Agree with you there about the gains. Understand you can play mid bass but I just got them playing higher frequencies and my 6x9s just a bit more bass so I don't have the extra weight of a sub but know what your saying

Guess I should have explained a bit better. But you did that

[rahul]

it turns out that the best setting for me is setting the 6x9 rears and front speakers & splits to both FLAT.

but i'm not sure about the frequency settings... should i set the frequencies at the same rate? the rears are at 80Hz and the fronts are about 100Hz.

when you set both to flat you are not using the crossovers. It doesn't matter where you set the frequencies as it will all sound the same. your speakers are playing full range of frequencies.


try these combinations

front/rear 60/60
front/rear 60/80
or even front/rear 60/50

you will have less bass but the speakers will sound cleaner as they have less to deal with.


btw, what splits are they? 6in should easily handle being hp'd at 80 hz. I hp mine at 60hz, even at 50hz sometimes, but only when i'm listening at lower volumes. it lags a bit at higher volumes.

[outatime]

oh i see. let me try that. actually the bass sounds better if i use flat. It's more of a midbass and it's punchier.

by the way, is it ok to HP the front and FLAT the rear? what's a good frequency setting for that?

the front are kevlar response. rear are JL Audio.

[rahul]

yea, you can do that...try crossing the fronts at 60hz for start and then raise or lower it till you like it.

more bass doesnt mean it sounds better. its just more bass, often at the expense of accuracy cos you are asking the speaker to play a wide range of frequencies. they tend to lag at moderate to higher volumes. play around, you'll hear what i mean.

finally, you cant keep chasing for bass without a sub. if you really dont want a sub and budget permitting, sound deaden your doors. that will dramatically increase the punchiness (made it up) of your speakers straight way with out touching any settings.

[outatime]

i'm still confuse with the frequency.. does it mean the higher the frequency the more treble? and more bass if it's lower?