Quote Originally Posted by denot View Post
I think what he tried to do is help us trying to figure out what causedthe problem, not just sit down and wait till honda test all the "fix" they can do on our cars "Oh this one doesnt fix it, lets try that one... Oh that one doesnt fix it as well, lets try that other one over there..." And at the end we got 114kw Accord Euro, not ATW that is...

so I'm not sure why u complain about SPQR statistic collection...

btw, his statistic is based on data collection thread on this forum, not random numbers
I appreciate that he's trying to help, and I might have overreacted, but I think the only way is to put presure on Honda as a group and force them to do something about it. If the 'fix' results in the car having only 114kW (btw, did you use this as an example, or do you have some info ? - would be good to know) then it's NOT A FIX, in my opinion.

What would the alternative be ? Outsmart the whole research department of
Honda in Japan, and find a fix that is not covered by warranty ?!...

It's been said before: the fuel quality argument doesn't fly. The CL9
(I had one and drove it everyday for five years) had more power and response under acceleration, and it didn't knock/ping or whatever Honda choose to call it. And I used the same fuel.

Even if the 'improved' engine is more sensitive to the quality of the fuel,
Honda have been present in Oz for eons; they know exactly what the aussie fuel looks like; so, if they choose to bring Honda Accord Euro to Oz, they have the responsibility to ensure it performs according to the specs; otherwise, they would have misrepresented their product.