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					28-03-2009 12:48 AM
				
			
			
				
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							QUICK QUESTIONS... i did a search and couldnt find much.. this relates to handling
 Front Strut braces
 is it better to get a 3p brace (connect from the 2 towers to the front.. lik the cusco front brace) or the 2p brace (connect only the 2 towers.. lik ultra racing and hypertec front braces) ?? Any big differences?
 
 Sway bars
 Also another question.. for FF cars like our FDs .. is it better to only get a rear sway bar or is it necessary to get both front and rear sway bar for the car to be balanced??
 
	
		
			
				
					28-03-2009 02:38 PM
				
			
			
				
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							im using cusco 3 pt and its not really that great.
 front feels a bit stiffer on track but mounting points used are crap.
 
 the tower mounts are strong but the front radiator frame mount is crap.
 
 the front radiator frame is something like a 2 mm aluminium plate which literally flexes if you twist with your arms.
 
 Id personally go a 2 point if you must buy one but other than that id save your money and buy sway bars imho.
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		2012 BMW S1000rr - 184whp, 9.733s @ 148.27mph - Quick enough!2006 Honda Civic - 101whp, 61s BBGL Short - When I need a bbt.
 
	
		
			
				
					28-03-2009 09:04 PM
				
			
			
				
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							im using a two points rite now, the mounting point i have to say i was disapointed...its not the usual mounting points on the strut tower top but next to it on top of the stock strut baru can take a look at my diy, i did a diy on fd front strut
 
	
		
			
				
					29-03-2009 01:24 PM
				
			
			
				
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							can you link us? I would like to see how the mounting points differ
						 
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		2012 BMW S1000rr - 184whp, 9.733s @ 148.27mph - Quick enough!2006 Honda Civic - 101whp, 61s BBGL Short - When I need a bbt.
 
	
		
			
				
					29-03-2009 09:24 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Get the rear sway bar first as it will provide a more direct turn-in. I'm planning to get one very soon.. The strut can wait IMO
						 
	
		
			
				
					29-03-2009 10:38 PM
				
			
			
				
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							cusco actually has 2 diff front strut bar for the FD, the other one is 2 point for the type R but i assume it'll fit the audm FD2. the purpose for a strut bar is to balance the front strut and transfer the force from one strut top to another so i dunno how it is done with the 3 point style, but at the end i wouldnt question cusco's design. 
 sway bar is said to be one of the most effective mod for a car's handling, for a FF car, rear sway bar upgrade is more important, u can get both F and R at the same time but never get the F without the R.
 
	
		
			
				
					30-03-2009 10:50 AM
				
			
			
				
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							U will lose the turn in response with front sway bar however the car will corner flatter. If u planning to get one get the rear sway bar first. U will feel the difference immediately. On normal daily driving turning will be more comfy as u can feel the rear is alot flatter and joins with the front. However the car will be slightly bumpier. I have ultra racing 16mm cause I heard the 19mm or higher will fk the endlinks then u have to weld the bar onto the car. The front strut bar itself wont make much diff compared to rear sway bar. I have both on mine and I'm satisfied with it for a daily car. I won't bother with other bars, if u want to take it to the next level just get a set of coilovers then you are done with handling mods
						 
				
				
				
					
						Last edited by xqwzit; 30-03-2009 at 10:54 AM.
					
					
				 
	
		
			
				
					30-03-2009 11:19 AM
				
			
			
				
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							^ all good info, and i agree 100% just buy a set of coilovers if you want the best bang for buck.
						 
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		2012 BMW S1000rr - 184whp, 9.733s @ 148.27mph - Quick enough!2006 Honda Civic - 101whp, 61s BBGL Short - When I need a bbt.
 
	
		
			
				
					30-03-2009 12:43 PM
				
			
			
				
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							touche guys
 i've already ordered in coilovers and see how the handling goes first... just wanting to know about extra handling features lik strut braces and sway bars.
 
 i believe for the cusco sway bars its.. Front 28mm and Rear 23mm ... is there a limit to the width size of ONLY putting on a rear sway bar (e.g limit to 19mm on the rear, anything above that i would need to put in the front sway bar???)
 
	
		
			
				
					30-03-2009 02:45 PM
				
			
			
				
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							theres no limit, i wont recommend a front sway bar anyway for FF cars, you want the rear to be stiffer than the front.
 larger rear sway bar = more oversteer. as i mentioned above,Front strut bar and RSB is all you need to match with your coilovers, other bars are just a waste of money.
 
 keep in mind that anything bigger than 16mm for RSB will fk your endlinks. unless you want it permanently by welding it on.
 
	
		
			
				
					30-03-2009 09:59 PM
				
			
			
				
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							oh so the cusco 23mm will fk the endlinks? but its not recommended to upgrade endlinks by cusco... lucky i read this, just ordered j's racing strut brace was about to order cusco RSB too, better find out more first...
						 
	
		
			
				
					31-03-2009 12:01 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by markCivicVti   Coming my way... will be on the ship in a week.   
And when it goes on I'll be likely to go from SRI to CAI... so my TopFuel zero-1000 SRI (partly carbon fibre too) will be up for grabs.. has served me well for 6mths.
   
It'll really depend on whether I'm gonna be worried about rain water dripping into the SRI through the vented bonnet... as the SRI is really quite good. hey mark how much was ur new CAI? I am on a typhoon K&N SRI at the moment and it uses WAY too much fuel without enough takeoff performance ot even decent improvement till about 5k RPM.  Are u worried about water getting into your CAI at all? Especially if it's been lowered.
 
 
 
 
 Also, on another note, does anyone know if 8 width tyres fit on the Civic FD1 (8th gen) when the car's been lowered? I have 7.5 at the moment and they almost look fat enough, I'm thinking if I put 19s with 40 profile I'm going to have to get the guards beaten to allow for pot holes and standard suspension movement.
 
				
				
				
					
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