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					  Originally Posted by  SPQR
					 
				 
				Sad to hear of another affected car. It's pinging/pinking/knocking, not pre-ignition i.e. exactly what Honda describes it as: "A post combustion sound".   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_knocking
It's wrong to accept it in any way. It's an expensive purchase and the fault should not have been allowed to drag on for so long. It affects your cars' potential resale values as the model will become known for this fault. When they write the book of lemons again, will the CU2 get a mention?  
			
		 
	 
 What lemon are you talking about, I believe the fault will be rectified in due course & once rectified how will it effect resale values? Sure it has taken time to find a solution, but better to do that & find and effective solution rather than try and mask over the problem as many manufacturers do. 
 
If cars were perfect they would not need to be covered by warranty & I do not know of a perfect car in any price range.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Hmmm can anyone post the sound of this "pinging"? A friend and I would really appreciate if we can hear what does it sound like so we can be aware of it...  
 
Or, perhaps someone already trade in their CU2 to dealer becoz of this? I might pop in to the dealer and run a test drive to check how does the pinging sound.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		 
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							Well mine still pings, given it is now one of 5 cars I have, it sits in the garage and is not driven, unless I have to move it out of the way.  I am over it, never buy another Honda, hell my 1982 Commodore and my 1989 Mazda RX7 have less rattles and engine noises...FFS Honda pull ya finger out. Once this is sorted I am trading this on a dual cab ute and be done with it...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Bobjones
					 
				 
				Well mine still pings, given it is now one of 5 cars I have, it sits in the garage and is not driven, unless I have to move it out of the way.  I am over it, never buy another Honda, hell my 1982 Commodore and my 1989 Mazda RX7 have less rattles and engine noises...FFS Honda pull ya finger out. Once this is sorted I am trading this on a dual cab ute and be done with it... 
			
		 
	 
 strangely my 1996 crap falcon and 2001 commodore has more rattles and problems than my CU2...  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		 
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					  Originally Posted by  Joystick
					 
				 
				Is anyone's ping getting worse? Mine can be heard through the entire rev range now and sounds like there's metal shards getting tossed around the engine.    
			
		 
	 
 Yep mine has worsened noticeably in the last couple of weeks.  I've done 20,000km since July 2008.  Seriously considering getting rid of it and buying a Mazda 6 instead, taking advantage of the 30% investment allowance before 30 June to soften the blow a bit.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  bk212
					 
				 
				Yep mine has worsened noticeably in the last couple of weeks.  I've done 20,000km since July 2008.  Seriously considering getting rid of it and buying a Mazda 6 instead, taking advantage of the 30% investment allowance before 30 June to soften the blow a bit. 
			
		 
	 
 should sell it back to the Honda dealer. and when they try to lower the price with "Coz it has pinging problem" reason, run over him with the car!
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		 
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					  Originally Posted by  bk212
					 
				 
				Yep mine has worsened noticeably in the last couple of weeks.  I've done 20,000km since July 2008.  Seriously considering getting rid of it and buying a Mazda 6 instead, taking advantage of the 30% investment allowance before 30 June to soften the blow a bit. 
			
		 
	 
 I feel the same way and might explore the possiblilties of getting a VW or 6. To have a constant pinging sound coming from the engine it greatly detracts from the driving experience, it's all I hear now when driving the car. Like others I find that I'm driving my other cars instead of my Euro.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  buddah51au
					 
				 
				What lemon are you talking about, I believe the fault will be rectified in due course & once rectified how will it effect resale values? Sure it has taken time to find a solution, but better to do that & find and effective solution rather than try and mask over the problem as many manufacturers do. 
 
If cars were perfect they would not need to be covered by warranty & I do not know of a perfect car in any price range. 
			
		 
	 
 Buddah51au - totally agree with you - this is my second honda now and this is the only problem i have experienced! (albeit it may be quite serious, the waranty will cover it!)... In comparison to my previous HSV's, Honda shits on other dealers in respect to service and commitment -- i am sure the fix is coming and all should be resolved in due course! Patience people... 
 
And experience with friends who own mazda's (esspecialy the CX7's and CX9's)... their fuel problems are far worse and mazda have sent them through the ringers like you wouldnt believe!!!
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							[QUOTE=denot;2254253]Hmmm can anyone post the sound of this "pinging"? A friend and I would really appreciate if we can hear what does it sound like so we can be aware of it...  
 
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The noise that comes from the engine is the same as a baby rattle 
with tiny mettalic balls in it. 
 
The noise can occur when motor is cold, or when you are accelerating hard. 
Honda's reputation is on the line....
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  09euro23
					 
				 
				Buddah51au - totally agree with you - this is my second honda now and this is the only problem i have experienced! (albeit it may be quite serious, the waranty will cover it!)... In comparison to my previous HSV's, Honda shits on other dealers in respect to service and commitment -- i am sure the fix is coming and all should be resolved in due course! Patience people... 
 
And experience with friends who own mazda's (esspecialy the CX7's and CX9's)... their fuel problems are far worse and mazda have sent them through the ringers like you wouldnt believe!!! 
			
		 
	 
  
I don't believe it is a serious problem at all and I am sure it will be resolved. Sure i can understand how some people would be frustrated & annoyed with it, but taking a backward step to a mazda to me is laughable. They have their share of problems as well. If the Mazda 6 had a pinging problem you probably couldn't hear it over the road noise that enters the cabin. 
 
When i was working in the trade it was common to see people with problems wanting them fixed yesterday. I look at it from a different perspective, if a manufacturer has a problem with a vehicle I prefer to see them take their time & resolve the problem properly & permanently, which I am certain will be the outcome in this case. 
 
As for Denot wanting a sound clip, I believe that would be an impossibility as it is not loud enough for a microphone to pick up.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  buddah51au
					 
				 
				What lemon are you talking about, I believe the fault will be rectified in due course & once rectified how will it effect resale values? Sure it has taken time to find a solution, but better to do that & find and effective solution rather than try and mask over the problem as many manufacturers do. 
 
If cars were perfect they would not need to be covered by warranty & I do not know of a perfect car in any price range. 
			
		 
	 
 True enough. But some cars have a citrus reputation. In posing the question, I am hoping that the CU2 would not be in those numbers. 
 
Here is another question: What solution?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  SPQR
					 
				 
				True enough. But some cars have a citrus reputation. In posing the question, I am hoping that the CU2 would not be in those numbers. 
 
Here is another question: What solution? 
			
		 
	 
 We will all find that out in due course
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
				 
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