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  1. #349
    all politics boys...

    theres not way Bernie will let this happen...

    the main gripe the teams have is with the 'two tier' system... meaning the guys on the voluntary 40mil pound budget caps will have much more freedoms in car development... while the un-budgeted teams will be hugely restricted...

    so far Red Bull... Toyota... Ferarri have said they'd pull out.... n BMW ..Renault.. n Merc mite too... if the rules for 2010 stay...

    the only teams that will probably stay are Williams...Force India.. and Brawn...



    but theres no way Mr Bernie will let Ferarri (not to mention the manufacturers) quit...
    the most likely scenario is that the rules WILL be changed for 2010....

    so we can all relax....



    EDIT: btw... i think MAX MOSLEY should be shot... hes totally ruining the sport... i reckon hes out to destroy F1... its just ridiculous the shit hes been pulling outa his ass lately (rule changes etc)...
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  2. #350
    another thing to note... Raikkonen commented in Barcelona that he will quit the sport next year (if the 2010 rules stick)... his comments were "this isnt F1"... n i agree 100% with him....

    fkn Max Mosley... i hate that cu*t with a passion...


    http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...12175405.shtml

    Ferrari's Board of Directors, chaired by Luca di Montezemolo, held a meeting on Tuesday at their Maranello headquarters to discuss business matters, but high on the order were the recent decisions taken by the FIA's World Motor Sport Council regarding the controversial budget cap option beginning next year.

    Under the 2010 regulations, teams opting to limit their budgets to 45 million Euros ($60m US) would enjoy much greater technical freedom than other teams, effectively creating a 'two-tier' series within Formula One.

    Many teams find the matter unacceptable as it currently stands, and the FIA's deadline of May 29th in order to file entries for the 2010 championship only added pressure to an already volatile situation with some teams speaking of boycotts.

    Today Ferrari has boldly stated that, unless common ground can be found, it will retire from Formula One at the end of the current season.

    Speaking of the WMSC decisions, a Ferrari statement indicated that "for the first time ever in Formula 1, the 2010 season will see the introduction of two different sets of regulations based on arbitrary technical rules and economic parameters."

    "The Board considers that if this is the regulatory framework for Formula 1 in the future, then the reasons underlying Ferrari's uninterrupted participation in the World Championship over the last 60 years – the only constructor to have taken part ever since its inception in 1950 – would come to a close."

    A long-standing point of conflict has been the FIA's tendency to move ahead with its plans without – from the teams' point of view – taking the considerations forwarded by the teams under serious review.

    "The Board also expressed its disappointment about the methods adopted by the FIA in taking decisions of such a serious nature and its refusal to effectively reach an understanding with constructors and teams," the Ferrari press release continued.
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    "The rules of governance that have contributed to the development of Formula 1 over the last 25 years have been disregarded, as have the binding contractual obligations between Ferrari and the FIA itself regarding the stability of the regulations."

    The Formula One Teams Association is not against the principle of budget capping but many teams have been lobbying against the 'two-tier' system on the basis that the sport, like any sport, should have identical regulations for everyone involved. Now Ferrari calls for a change in the way F1 is governed as well.

    "The same rules for all teams, stability of regulations, the continuity of the FOTA's endeavours to methodically and progressively reduce costs, and governance of Formula 1 are the priorities for the future," Ferrari affirm.

    "If these indispensable principles are not respected and if the regulations adopted for 2010 will not change, then Ferrari does not intend to enter its cars in the next Formula 1 World Championship."

    "Ferrari trusts that its many fans worldwide will understand that this difficult decision is coherent with the Scuderia's approach to motor sport and to Formula 1 in particular, always seeking to promote its sporting and technical values. The Chairman of the Board of Directors was mandated to evaluate the most suitable ways and methods to protect the company's interests," the statement concludes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krogoth View Post
    omfg

    if ferrari quit next year..............they will prove that they are the biggest bunch of ****headed kunts in the world

    links please

    i will reserve any further judgement
    They arent just leaving because of the salary cap, its because of all the stupid fkn changes (i.e. they want to get rid of re-fuelling.....), and there is a breach in contract with the FIA which states there in untill 2012 and in this time there can't be a salary cap, Its not just ferrari its also Toyota.

    I agree with ferrari though WTF is with all this BS changes F1 is good as it is no need to make such fkn drastic changes. A salary cap to even the playing field????? wtf TOYOTA, HONDA, BMW make as much or even more money than ferrari does but doesn't invest as much as them into f1, thats their problem they can afford to spend as much money as ferrari on their f1 car but decide not to, and instead choose to spend it on other competitions (i.e. Nascar etc...).

    I rkn Ferrari are bluffing but toyota i don't know, ferarri have said this once before in 1986 when they said they would pull out enter le mans instead, but the FIA and ferrari worked something out.

    Max Mosly needs to hold the fk up, and stop changing so much fkn shit, the fkn NAZI Rapist needs to fkn resign. I shouldn't be so harsh consodering his son just died last week on overdosage of drugs but I am not happy JAN.

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    What ferrari is doing is good, I agree with them, It sort of forces the FIA to stop making such drastic changes, if the salary cap goes through and ferrari don't participate next year, GG to f1, can you imagine how many MUZZA'S wont have a team to support, how many supporters will stop watching, I like ferrari's stance on this, IF WE GO DOWN YOUR COMING WITH US.

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    lol 60million is what most teams spend on designing the front spoiler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Binny View Post
    What ferrari is doing is good, I agree with them, It sort of forces the FIA to stop making such drastic changes, if the salary cap goes through and ferrari don't participate next year, GG to f1, can you imagine how many MUZZA'S wont have a team to support, how many supporters will stop watching, I like ferrari's stance on this, IF WE GO DOWN YOUR COMING WITH US.
    its true... F1 will lose a huge amount of viewers... im not talkin bout the die hard fans ... but the every day joe blow that switchs on the tele when the aust gp is on to watch Ferarri...
    if u ask everyday ppl what team they support.. most likely than not most of em will be on the Ferarri bandwagon...

    no Ferarri + manafactuers = gg F1

    all the above is exactly why Bernie will not let this happen..

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    Quote Originally Posted by krogoth View Post
    lol 60million is what most teams spend on designing the front spoiler
    Nah, that's for the locknut that they use.
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    FOTA (Formula One Team Association) showing that they mean business....
    Renault next...
    lets hope this is a reality check for Max..
    http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...13091215.shtml

    Renault could be the next car manufacturer to threaten to quit Formula One at the end of 2009.

    Ferrari, F1's oldest and most famous name, sent the specialist and mainstream media into a spin on Tuesday by announcing that the FIA's budget cap plans for 2010 will lead to its withdrawal from the sport.

    Toyota and Red Bull have made similar threats, while Mario Theissen said last week that the new regime would likely lead to the BMW board reassessing its commitment to F1.
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    Le Figaro is a leading French morning daily, and it claims: "According to our information, Renault will announce the same decision (as Ferrari's) on Wednesday."

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    GG F1 if this goes through. Max you need to wake the fk up, ferrari spent $600m AUD last year on their formula one car and you want to bring it down to ~ $100m AUD???? No refueling???? get your head out of your arse..

  10. #358
    imo the whole no refueling thing is not so bad...
    it'll be like bak in the turbo days... n who knowz.. .mite even push engine makers to develop more efficient engines...

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    imo the no refueling is sht because re-fueling gives teams much more variables to play with (weight and pit stop times) when planning their strategy and just makes the sport that much more interesting to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^^v View Post
    imo the whole no refueling thing is not so bad...
    it'll be like bak in the turbo days... n who knowz.. .mite even push engine makers to develop more efficient engines...
    Reminds me of that year where tyre changes were not allowed. That was a shit year. hahaha
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