White foam looking bar behind front bumper

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yeah i understand

same goes with resprays and engine bay not matching colour reduces value.

as valid assumptions but if the vehicle had been involved in a accident that destroyed the foam bar, there would be 1. other tell tale signs as you've mentioned above and 2. i'm sure the repairer would replace the foam bar. I think the valid assumption would be in regards to the foam bar is, if the foam bar is brand new then it is likely it was replaced due to an accident. Not simply because its missing..that's a fools assumption.

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yeah i understand as valid assumptions but if the vehicle had been involved in a accident that destroyed the foam bar, there would be 1. other tell tale signs as you've mentioned above and 2. i'm sure the repairer would replace the foam bar. I think the valid assumption would be in regards to the foam bar is, if the foam bar is brand new then it is likely it was replaced due to an accident. Not simply because its missing..that's a fools assumption.

funnily enough most don't. i have had first hand experience with this and a few others.. and i'm willing to name a few said body repair shops via PM too so as to not openly 'defame'

The said support bar was included in the repair quote. It was neither repaired or replaced but simply removed.... why? because it's an easy $300 pocket money for the 'dodgy repairer'. But A LOT of repairers do this for the foam+support beam.

got nothing to do with 'fools assumption".... thats what YOU are assuming.... i'm telling you what happens in the industry.


and Sir_Vtec is right about fussy buyers. When the time comes for me to sell my car, i'm willing to open up my rocker cover to show the internals for the build that was performed as long as the buyer is serious and puts a deposit down.. enough for me to replace the gaskets. Experienced car buyers will check EVERYTHING. There are many tell-tale signs of an acco car, but at the possibility the acco was minor and the bumper was replaced you'd still check for those things.

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funnily enough most don't. i have had first hand experience with this and a few others.. and i'm willing to name a few said body repair shops via PM too so as to not openly 'defame'

The said support bar was included in the repair quote. It was neither repaired or replaced but simply removed.... why? because it's an easy $300 pocket money for the 'dodgy repairer'. But A LOT of repairers do this for the foam+support beam.

got nothing to do with 'fools assumption".... thats what YOU are assuming.... i'm telling you what happens in the industry.


and Sir_Vtec is right about fussy buyers. When the time comes for me to sell my car, i'm willing to open up my rocker cover to show the internals for the build that was performed as long as the buyer is serious and puts a deposit down.. enough for me to replace the gaskets. Experienced car buyers will check EVERYTHING. There are many tell-tale signs of an acco car, but at the possibility the acco was minor and the bumper was replaced you'd still check for those things.

Yeah I've read the AAMI dodgy repair thread haha.

I was referring to the assumption that if the foam absorber is missing means the vehicle had been in an accident is a fools assumption. I'm saying that there are much more applicable assumptions to make that result in the same conclusion that dont involve going to all that trouble to check whether the foam absorber is there or not. As i agreed with you before, you said mismatched panels, different colours in the engine bay etc would already put you off the vehicle before you even get to whats behind the front bar.

If the buyer puts down a deposit then sure anyone would be happy to go to such extents. After the buyer puts down a deposit, doesnt matter whether hes a tight arse buyer or a fussy buyer as hes already put his money where his mouth is. However there are more fussy buyers on a budget then baller fussy buyers and this means more than likely they're not going to put down a deposit before they ask you to turn your vehicle inside out. So hence the question, are you willing to potentially waste time, resources and the possibility of devaluing your asset everytime a fussy buyer inquires about your vehicle? The answer is obviously no.