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							sounds like ur really trying to do things on a budget. y dont u save for 2 months longer and save urself 2 months of headaches down the track by doing things right the 1st time. learn from other peoples mistakes...it costs too much to make ur own!!
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Killa From Manila
					 
				 
				sounds like ur really trying to do things on a budget. y dont u save for 2 months longer and save urself 2 months of headaches down the track by doing things right the 1st time. learn from other peoples mistakes...it costs too much to make ur own!! 
			
		 
	 
 im not making my own, the price of getting the exhaust done is the only thing worrying me, & i know a custom downpipe for an internal wastegate is a little more complicated to make compared to a downpipe with no wastegate exit...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  VTECnique
					 
				 
				im not making my own, the price of getting the exhaust done is the only thing worrying me, & i know a custom downpipe for an internal wastegate is a little more complicated to make compared to a downpipe with no wastegate exit... 
			
		 
	 
 You are looking at around $1k all up for a custom downpipe and full exhaust
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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				You are looking at around $1k all up for a custom downpipe and full exhaust 
			
		 
	 
 thas stainless though, if i supply them with the mandrel bends, it should be alot cheaper, especially in mild steel...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  VTECnique
					 
				 
				thas stainless though, if i supply them with the mandrel bends, it should be alot cheaper, especially in mild steel... 
			
		 
	 
 Nah thats how much it cost me for mandrel bent mild steel... remember muffler, resonator, cat, flex pipe, flanges and tip all adds up to about $500-600 then you add cost of piping and labour probably another $300-400 for downpipe + exhaust
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							dude it will be more expensive to get an external gate setup made than and internal gate setup. 
just run the internal gate should be 200-250 for the dump pipe. 
 
My mate got a 2.5 inch full exhaust for his SSS turbo dump high flow cat piping xforce 3" cannon and it cost him $800 so you will be looking around that sorta price
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							already got the muffler, ive got a family member that can get the bends & piping for cheap, so all i really need from exhaust shop is resonator, flex pipe, flanges & 02 bungs. im keeping the stock cat because its already a hi flow unit (honeycomb stuff fell out at some point). I may even just keep the 2.25" system i have on it now & just get mandrel bends fitted... 
 
For the dump pipe issue, i may be able to fit a stock GTiR dump pipe, so it clears ac compressor & can get one cheap.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Killa From Manila
					 
				 
				sounds like ur really trying to do things on a budget. y dont u save for 2 months longer and save urself 2 months of headaches down the track by doing things right the 1st time. learn from other peoples mistakes...it costs too much to make ur own!! 
			
		 
	 
 well see here's the thing. ive only heard people running the AFC hack on typical Y8, Z6, B16As, etc. ive not heard one person use it with a Y4 probably because they wouldnt bother. but, there may be other people out there in a similar situation who can only use an AFC. 
  
Call me the guinea pig if you'd like. As i understand alot of people recommend not to use it, at the same time i know of alot of sucess stories with the AFC. If i find it doesnt work/break something, ill let the users of ozhonda know of my research so other users know whether to steer away or go for it.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							pretty much all the guinuea pigs moved onto better solutions and thats a fact. so you are abit late. 
if you do the AFC HACK on a b16a+turbo in this day and ages with such inexpensive and reliable ecu options you the dumbest person out. 
 
http://www.xenocron.com/index.php 
do you yourself 
tune it yourself 
then once you have a clue about engine management you will turn around and say fukc that AFC shit, I wouldnt even piss on it.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  iced
					 
				 
				pretty much all the guinuea pigs moved onto better solutions and thats a fact. so you are abit late. 
if you do the AFC HACK on a b16a+turbo in this day and ages with such inexpensive and reliable ecu options you the dumbest person out.
 
 http://www.xenocron.com/index.php
do you yourself 
tune it yourself 
then once you have a clue about engine management you will turn around and say fukc that AFC shit, I wouldnt even piss on it.  
			
		 
	 
 thats true, if i had a B16A turbo, id get the conversion harness & chipped ecu. but, since there's alot of other stuff & more expensive parts to purchase to fully tune the Y4, & ontop of that either diy tuning or dyno tuning, there's about $2k, when i can just get this AFC, wire it into my existing harness, then if i feel i need to upgrade, i can save in the meantime while im using the AFC...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							it would be pretty hard to get the get to get tuned because you said you have no access to a experienced dyno tuner or one that can tune your car?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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