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  1. #373
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    FWIW, Peng's car will make more power with a better intake & cat.
    That is remove the factory airbox & filter & replace it with something better. (Injen, AEM, Mugen etc...)
    The cat is still a ceramic unit also, there's probably a bit of power hiding here too.
    The cam timing, though on zero's seems to be pretty much right with a clean smooth Vtec swap @ 6500rpm. (which is odd)
    As a side note, if I was to guess the cam spec by how it tuned, rather than be told what they were...
    To be honest I would have guessed them as Pro 1's rather than Pro 3's.
    Just by the charaterisic of the output more than anything else.
    That said, we've never seen Pro 3's used in this type of combination previously.

    Other notes of interest,
    We've never really seen more than 120~122kw @ the wheels using the OEM DC2 airbox.
    Changing the filter to a high flow item does little or nothing to improve this due to proximity of filter to airbox inner surface.
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    Why would someone build something like this and use an OEM airbox and a crappy exhaust system?

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    i've seen a turbo setup with a GT2860RS, full custom kit and only have a stock exhaust when dynoing
    Go fig some people dun seem to care
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limbo View Post
    i've seen a turbo setup with a GT2860RS, full custom kit and only have a stock exhaust when dynoing
    Go fig some people dun seem to care
    I guess those ppl dont have a brain

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    I was gonna add something to that last dyno post yesterday but thought not but since everyone else did, I would have expected much more that that from a pro3'd b18c7 with 12.5:1cr. Why put the motor together, are you 100% sure of the cr and the cams used? also it says u got s300 (is it untuned or wat???) Give us a reply peng.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benson View Post
    I guess those ppl dont have a brain
    Bit aggressive there Benny... Ease up...
    Quote Originally Posted by B18cEG View Post
    I was gonna add something to that last dyno post yesterday but thought not but since everyone else did, I would have expected much more that that from a pro3'd b18c7 with 12.5:1cr. Why put the motor together, are you 100% sure of the cr and the cams used? also it says u got s300 (is it untuned or wat???) Give us a reply peng.

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    n't take this the wrong way,
    I think your expectation is likely based on your assumption or hope that Pro 3 cams are capable of huge power gains over stock.
    Reality is, in the guise of the engine shown they are probably not an ideal cam choice.
    The results Peng has shown is current best power after tuning.
    Now if you think you can do a better tuning job tuning the same combination.. Hey, I'm all ears...
    If not, maybe don't be so critical & look at the whole picture rather than just one small part of it.

    As for discrediting or paying out on Peng,
    C'mon guys, lay off a bit & take this thread for what it is, informative...
    Peng has shown his results so others can learn from it. (Good or bad)
    Sure, his combination isn't ideal...
    But he hasn't tried to hide that either.
    To his credit, it's something he built at home with a friend.
    & like it or not, it's still a lot better than many on this forum can do themselves...
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    na na its not that i think i can do a better tuning job or that im paying out on peng, its just that i have seen bolt-on, tuned b18c7's make roughly the same power as this. Its true that the intake is shit, especially for what hes got but that should be an easy fix, even some bent pipe and pod would do a better job. All im saying is that he could have spent alot less money and made roughly the same power, he did ask for coments so these are the coments.

    Peng, try set urself up with a better intake system, Where did u get the cams and pistons, just to make sure, who knows, maybe the person that sold them to you thought they were pro3's but then again im not sure of how or were they were bought, and adrian im sure you know that this setup theoretially should make at least a little more power.
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    Pro1's would be on the mark.

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    hi all, after a long day of work, im very glad to see this many responses to my post. very appreciated for this.
    thank you guys

  10. #382
    Quote Originally Posted by Benson View Post
    Why would someone build something like this and use an OEM airbox and a crappy exhaust system?
    because im not as smart as you Benny.
    if I was good enough to put a V10 F1 engine in my shitty civic, you wouldn't have a chance to speak would ya? I would say "why would someone put a 150kw kinder garten B20 in a civic?"
    so please do not always judge things at your own level, remember, everything has a reason for being done, so respect to people's choices.

  11. #383
    Quote Originally Posted by TODA AU View Post

    As for discrediting or paying out on Peng,
    C'mon guys, lay off a bit & take this thread for what it is, informative...
    Peng has shown his results so others can learn from it. (Good or bad)
    Sure, his combination isn't ideal...
    But he hasn't tried to hide that either.
    To his credit, it's something he built at home with a friend.
    & like it or not, it's still a lot better than many on this forum can do themselves...
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    for some of the guys who has a BRAIN, please think wiser like Adrian.: thumbsup:

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    I'd like to see a stock B18C run super imposed over pengspengs. Not a real expert on B18C's but pengpeng's mid range looks alot better than most mildly modded B18's....to me anyway!

    Not trying to shit stir here, but if you compare it to delsol9000's graphs (B18C with what I would consider std motor with good bolt-ons) it not really that bad, nice smooth power delivery without waiting for the vtec to kick in

    My 2c's anyway!

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