Tein Basic Coilovers

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Where have I ridden it out? Before you start running your mouth, read the thread first.
I’ve defended a product, which I have ACTUALLY used, comprehend?

You think I would start "running my mouth" without reading the entire thread? How do you think I came to the conclusion of you feeling the need to defend the Tein basics?

You have written it out when you told him that because he doesn’t own a DC5 his "experience means zilch". He is given his opinion on the matter (And he sounds like he knows what he is talking about). Just because it is completely different to yours and because he doesn’t own a DC5 doesn’t mean you tell him his "experience means zilch".

Oh so you’d like to nit-pick my posts now.

Why are you comparing “decent set of springs/shocks” to D2’s? We know D2’s are of cheap quality, so what’s your point?

My point is, if you buy cheap coilovers, or cheap spring/shocks, you'll have problems with them. You get what you pay for.

If you do research, and find a spring that isn’t going to be stupidly low, you won’t have problems. I know my older brother ran lowered King springs on his stock shocks on his Mirage for like 2 years (This was 6 years ago) and never had problems.

You’ve never heard of shocks blowing? Do you live under a rock? No it’s not from doing stupid shit. It’s from using a bad combination of springs with shocks. People want to go “low”, so what do they do? Get shorter springs. What do you think is going to happen?

No, I don't live under a rock. I personally tend not to associate with bogans (cut springs), or people that have no idea about cars. When I first bought my DC5R, it ran Eibach springs on the stock DC5R shocks (Hey look I can bold words to). I have since sold these to Burak, who loves them. I'm not sure how many K's are on the shocks, but they sat in my shed for about 2 years, and they are perfectly fine.

Don’t put words in my mouth. That was never implied.

Coilovers are the prime choice for your everyday Joe. You know why? Because your everyday Joe, wants something which will give him the drop and improvement in handling he wants, right out of the box. He doesn’t want to be running around trying different springs and shocks.

90% of the spring/strut kits on the market will never give the drop you’re after.
It may be too low or too high. Do you think people want to be running around trying different springs?

That’s where the market for coilovers come in. They provide an out of the box solution, which will give the drop you want as well as an improvement in handling.

For the hardcore trackers out there, springs and struts are perfect for them. They’ve got the time and knowledge to try out different springs, with different dampers to see which will run best with their setup.

But for your everyday Joe prebuilt coilovers are the way to go.

99% of cars run spring/struts is because the manufacturer’s actually know what their doing. The springs are catered to the shock.

They’re not just getting any spring and matching it with some random shock. Countless hours of R & D actually go into it.

Just to note… I only read through that once… about 20 min ago… and I’m kinda over this argument, because you seem like the type of person that HAS to have the final word.

Maybe if people read websites, and did a little research, they would know roughly how much springs are going to drop a car. Burak looked into it when he bought my springs, and he has said they are perfect height.

Now here’s a question for you. Why do 90% of modders take out these springs/struts and go for coilovers? And yes that includes those tein SS’s your running.

That's none of your business... naa... I'll actually give you an answer for that. When I bought my Tein SS (Far out, bolding is easy) almost 3 years ago, I had heard lots of good things about them, a few of my friends with DC5's (So that means there opinions would be valid... by your standards) were running Tein SS or HA's, and said they were good... so I got my Tein SS's 2nd hand for a bargin. In that time I have lowered (Lowest setting), and then raised it (To what it is now) once. After having these for 3 years, I’m actually considering changing to something a little more stiffer, as they are too soft for my liking... maybe you would be interested... would be a nice step up from Basics.

I would personally love to get some Ohlin's, but my brother (He owns a EG Civic) has been looking into getting some new suspension for his car (Currently runs height adjustable only coilovers), and he has been looking at a Koni shock/spring combo, and he has told me all about it (As he is the type of person to do research before he buys something), and he has come up with a fair few pro's & con's about both coilover and strut/spring combo's... but... I guess I'll have to do my own research as his car is differant to mine... so his research "means zilch".