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  1. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by WATAJK View Post
    Im pretty sure i know who u are lol
    Believe or not
    Ur username rings such a bell its not funny...
    Your first name wouldn't happen to be nick would it?
    if im right i know who u are LOL
    Dw all good :P
    i dont know if i should be scared?

    lol

    pm on details on how you know me if thats cool.
    Last edited by .:Thrasher:.; 25-11-2009 at 02:00 AM.

  2. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by .:Thrasher:. View Post
    i dont know if i should be scared?

    lol

    pm on details on how you know me if thats cool.
    Relax man..
    All good..
    I know u better then u fink =)
    Ill explain l8er via pm, headin to work

    Ben u got major plans for the EG or juz light work?

  3. #15
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    Welcome Mr. Peach
    Wonderful little car you have and you'll be glad you bought into the Honda family.
    My opinion may differ from others but I'll lend it to you anyway.

    Put simply, if you're on a low dispensable income I would suggest holding off on modifying the Breeze and save for something newer and all round a better package.

    If you've simply fallen in love with the EG shape and can't see yourself in another car, start saving your dollars. Honda's can be some of the most expensive cars to modify in Australia simply due to the low supply of quality parts.

    The run down on engine transplants into your Breeze is pretty straight forward to me.
    1. Your car is not running EFI(Electronic Fuel Injection) and therefore you can't just drop an EFI engine in and drive away. You'll need an EFI fuel tank and fuel lines to name a few of the parts.
    2. You can't just grab the engine and plug her into you standard wiring. You will probably need a matching ECU(Engine Control Unit) and the wiring to go with it.
    3. The Breeze is great for sleeper status. Leave the stickers on, a stock looking exhaust, keep it quiet and chuck in a B18C or B16A engine(along with the needed brake/suspension upgrades) and watch other drivers jaw drop as they just got beaten by something resembling their hairdressers car or grandma's shopping trolley.
    4. Being on your green P plates in Victoria knocks the idea of an engine transplant straight out of the picture, unless you enjoy running the risk of being caught. Other people have done it, I personally wouldn't. It really depends how lucky you feel and how well you think your local cops will know a Honda engine bay.
    5. Don't forget insurance, if you haven't got it then get it. If you're only on third party then you are allowed more freedom than a full comprehensive policy but it pays to enquire about what you would be covered for, before modifying your car.
    6. With the added power of a new engine you definitely need to at least swap out those rear drum brakes for some in the disc variety.

    The price of an engine varies from seller to seller and always reflects the history, quality and parts included. Look around on these forums and don't be afraid to check out forums from the USA(they've done almost everything possible with the EG Civic). There is a wealth of knowledge all over the net about Honda engine swaps. There's even a book published about them, spending 50 bucks on that book could save you a lot of time and hassles.

    To conclude, many of the answers you seek are on this forum. The search feature isn't the best system but give it a good work out and you'll be well on your way to beginning your knowledge of Civic EG Engine swaps.

  4. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_EG4 View Post
    Welcome Mr. Peach
    Wonderful little car you have and you'll be glad you bought into the Honda family.
    My opinion may differ from others but I'll lend it to you anyway.

    Put simply, if you're on a low dispensable income I would suggest holding off on modifying the Breeze and save for something newer and all round a better package.

    If you've simply fallen in love with the EG shape and can't see yourself in another car, start saving your dollars. Honda's can be some of the most expensive cars to modify in Australia simply due to the low supply of quality parts.

    The run down on engine transplants into your Breeze is pretty straight forward to me.
    1. Your car is not running EFI(Electronic Fuel Injection) and therefore you can't just drop an EFI engine in and drive away. You'll need an EFI fuel tank and fuel lines to name a few of the parts.
    2. You can't just grab the engine and plug her into you standard wiring. You will probably need a matching ECU(Engine Control Unit) and the wiring to go with it.
    3. The Breeze is great for sleeper status. Leave the stickers on, a stock looking exhaust, keep it quiet and chuck in a B18C or B16A engine(along with the needed brake/suspension upgrades) and watch other drivers jaw drop as they just got beaten by something resembling their hairdressers car or grandma's shopping trolley.
    4. Being on your green P plates in Victoria knocks the idea of an engine transplant straight out of the picture, unless you enjoy running the risk of being caught. Other people have done it, I personally wouldn't. It really depends how lucky you feel and how well you think your local cops will know a Honda engine bay.
    5. Don't forget insurance, if you haven't got it then get it. If you're only on third party then you are allowed more freedom than a full comprehensive policy but it pays to enquire about what you would be covered for, before modifying your car.
    6. With the added power of a new engine you definitely need to at least swap out those rear drum brakes for some in the disc variety.

    The price of an engine varies from seller to seller and always reflects the history, quality and parts included. Look around on these forums and don't be afraid to check out forums from the USA(they've done almost everything possible with the EG Civic). There is a wealth of knowledge all over the net about Honda engine swaps. There's even a book published about them, spending 50 bucks on that book could save you a lot of time and hassles.

    To conclude, many of the answers you seek are on this forum. The search feature isn't the best system but give it a good work out and you'll be well on your way to beginning your knowledge of Civic EG Engine swaps.
    7. have a coke and smile

    youre so helpful mang.
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  5. #17
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    Responses below Thanks for your comments mate, they're very very helpful

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_EG4 View Post
    Welcome Mr. Peach
    Wonderful little car you have and you'll be glad you bought into the Honda family.
    My opinion may differ from others but I'll lend it to you anyway.


    If you've simply fallen in love with the EG shape and can't see yourself in another car, start saving your dollars. Honda's can be some of the most expensive cars to modify in Australia simply due to the low supply of quality parts.

    You've pretty much hit the nail on the head there. I've absolutely in la la la love with the EG shape, the way it rides, way it feels and the way it looks. Can't comment much about the power thus yet, as being a 1.3 litre, I think I can accelerate quicker on a road bike (as in push bike hahahha ).

    3. The Breeze is great for sleeper status. Leave the stickers on, a stock looking exhaust, keep it quiet and chuck in a B18C or B16A engine(along with the needed brake/suspension upgrades) and watch other drivers jaw drop as they just got beaten by something resembling their hairdressers car or grandma's shopping trolley.

    That's not a bad idea at all hahahaha. I saw this street drag go down between a SV6 Holden and an EG civic one day, and I tell's ya, the civic absolutely smashed the balls off the SV6. Funny thing is, the SV6 had the alloy wheels, was dumped and was visually tricked in every way possible, and the civic which pwnd it had stocko hub cap wheels hahaha. Made me LOL hard.

    4. Being on your green P plates in Victoria knocks the idea of an engine transplant straight out of the picture, unless you enjoy running the risk of being caught. Other people have done it, I personally wouldn't. It really depends how lucky you feel and how well you think your local cops will know a Honda engine bay.

    So I can't put a b16 in legally? How about a D series engine? Is that still illegal?

    6. With the added power of a new engine you definitely need to at least swap out those rear drum brakes for some in the disc variety.

    Yeah once I have enough information to make an informed decision on whether or not an engine swap is legal and worth it I will definitely be upgrading the rear drum brakes.


  6. #18
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    b16a is the best way to go for a eg. its not to heavy to oversteer or understeer the chassis of the car and it has a hell of alot of power.

  7. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peachy View Post
    Responses below Thanks for your comments mate, they're very very helpful
    Any engine swap that isn't another D13 is illegal for a green P plater.
    The way I am hoping to go about things is to save up until I'm off green P's and buy the best quality parts I can. Then pretty much do everything at once! Sounds simple enough to me *touch wood*.
    Not saying my way is the best way, you need to find the way that suits your situation and your needs best.

    As you said the VicRoads website isn't very specific with it's 'no performance enhancing mods'. The way I have interpreted it is that the only things I would risk throwing on are a cat back exhaust and perhaps a high flow filter. I'm not sure how the carbies go with new filters or even if they are available.
    There's plenty of people on here with performance mods. I think you just need to decide your risk to reward ratio.

  8. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_EG4 View Post
    Any engine swap that isn't another D13 is illegal for a green P plater.
    can you tell me from where did you come to that conclusion?
    im sure the vicroads says that if its a replacement engine for that car, its fine?
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  9. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by mocchi View Post
    can you tell me from where did you come to that conclusion?
    im sure the vicroads says that if its a replacement engine for that car, its fine?
    yeah so it would have to be a D13 to be a replacement.
    swapping in a higher capacity engine increases the vehicles power which is against P plate laws.
    Just the way I understand. Will be glad to be proven wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_EG4 View Post
    yeah so it would have to be a D13 to be a replacement.
    swapping in a higher capacity engine increases the vehicles power which is against P plate laws.
    Just the way I understand. Will be glad to be proven wrong
    oh nah, not attacking you or anything just wondering because i thought the power to weight restriction only applies to old p platers.
    S P A M | W O R K S
    With our special rotational tires, it will allow you to drive very fast. - JK Tyre

  11. #23
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    hey peachy guess what popped ill show ya next time you come around hahaha.

  12. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by mocchi View Post
    oh nah, not attacking you or anything just wondering because i thought the power to weight restriction only applies to old p platers.
    No I knew you weren't, I was just saying if my understanding of the laws is incorrect then I'd be quite happy.
    Yeah but modifications that increase power are illegal.

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