I finally found an R, but still not 100% on it

[Vestri]

is the Ford really that fast?

that seems to be your main argument for getting one but they weigh in at about 1450kg and115KW/tonne.
0-100 in 7.6 and the quarter in 15.5.

civic is 7.7 and 15.6. You really think you will notice the difference?

The Ford is a completely different car, 5 doors for a start, I think to base your decision on a split second difference is a bit silly.

I understand this point. But I never worried too much about power, I did however talk a lot about torque. There is just so much more in the WRX and the XR5 and at a lower RPM (4000 on the WRX and 1600-4000 on the XR5)

What I was trying to say is that the Ford feels like its going much more faster, whereas the R is just as fast but I never really felt anything.

In any case, power wasnt anything important to me, I made this very clear. But I do appretiate the turbo in the ford and the WRX, and I like the feel of the surge in the ford. I test drove both already and whilst the Honda is cool, I just wish it had more torque, thats all Im saying.