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Thread: CU2 Handling

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    CU2 Handling

    So as planned by Sunday morning I had put 450km on the car since pick up on Friday. Brakes still haven't been run in yet as the initial bite is still not strong enough.

    My first impression of it around the city was that the suspension was abit too soft. To the point when the car went over continuous uneven surface the wheels just felt like they were bouncing around. On smooth road it was ok and overal it took up the bumps reasonably well.

    Taking it at decent speed around some corners initially felt unsettling as the the suspension travel was more than what I was use to.

    Took the car to Wiseman's ferry run to get a feel of what this thing was really made off.

    Going on the old road up north the car really came into it's own. I was in for a treat once speed was past 2nd gear.

    The chassis set up of the CU2 was quite impressive. Mid corner I could give it more turn-in and power and the car just pivoted at which ever direction I was turning. At no point at all did the car feel nose heavy and hinting understeer which was just superb. It's only at the limits that you get a sense of how capable this car is. On a few occasions it felt like the car was offering more turning input - this may have been the VSA at work by plucking the inner rear brake to give added oversteering. I haven't driven something with VSA in the past so am not sure on this one. It was a strange sensation because the tyres felt like they had no additional grip on offer but yet the car was still able to turn in quite sharply.

    The steering feed back is not as good as the civic sport as it didnt fully communicate how much traction is left in the tyres. I did get a sense that the wheels were just too big for this thing....specially gover bumpy road. The larger wheels might be holding back some of the nibble qualities that chassis was designed for.

    After this 3hr long drive it really made me less sure about whether adding thicker swap bars would be a good idea right now. Reason being, forcing the car to roll less will just shift the weak point more to the tyres. I guess it might be worth considering better tyres before the upgrade in springs or sway bars. Taking out some of the floating feeling that comes with a soft ride will certainly sharpen the CU2's characteristics up a notch.

    It's left me wondering what the mazda 6, audi A4's and other cars in the category has on offer in terms of handling. Maybe what the CU2's offering is quite the norm these days for full sized sedans.



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    Last edited by MKI4EVA; 17-01-2010 at 07:36 PM.

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    nice writeup!

    with the vsa, I'm not sure about on the CU2 but I'm fairly sure on the CL9 all the vsa ever did was kill the throttle when the front wheels lost traction. I've never felt any braking from vsa - I believe that's what traction control does as opposed to stability assist, but someone please correct me of I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by euromandeluxe View Post
    nice writeup!

    with the vsa, I'm not sure about on the CU2 but I'm fairly sure on the CL9 all the vsa ever did was kill the throttle when the front wheels lost traction. I've never felt any braking from vsa - I believe that's what traction control does as opposed to stability assist, but someone please correct me of I'm wrong.
    What you felt on the front wheels when they lost traction was the traction control at work to slow the wheels down to regain traction. Instead, the VSA does brake individual wheels and sometimes you can feel it happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_LATE View Post
    loving it
    that avarta of yours says it all.............they meant business when they were setting up the CU2 at honda. I love the short shifter stick .

    I'm starting to learn the limits of this thing. The speed and cornering ability is alot higher than what I'm use to so it can be abit hairy at times .

    A lesson was learnt coming onto the carhill overpass from martin place going onto the harbour bridge. Plenty of tight bends there!!!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKI4EVA View Post
    A lesson was learnt coming onto the carhill overpass from martin place going onto the harbour bridge. Plenty of tight bends there!!!.
    LOL! hopefuly you're not running @ max speed limit in your CU2 on that bend

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    Quote Originally Posted by denot View Post
    LOL! hopefuly you're not running @ max speed limit in your CU2 on that bend
    shat my pants and had to dab the brakes and somehow it didn't understeer.

    close call


    Hanging for coilovers so the handling is more predictable.

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    If VSA kick in, you will see the light on the dash light up or blinks

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    Anyone done a direct comparison of the CL9 and the CU2? Differences? Similarities?

    - HZ

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    I personally find the handling of the CU2 well above average, although not quite as firm as the Mazda 6. After my recent trip south there is no way I would lower it for country driving as I scraped the plastic wind deflectors in front of the front wheels a couple of times while exploring the upper limits of what a CU2 will do. A firmer suspension would be out of the question for driving on some of our 2nd class rural roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterZero View Post
    Anyone done a direct comparison of the CL9 and the CU2? Differences? Similarities?

    - HZ
    I've driven a CL9 auto very hard on OP and it was simply just another sedan that was composed but not responsive during cornering etc. Where as I find with the CU2 manual I could get the chassis to respond more to driving input mid corner.

    Even though the CL9 was auto it had the steering shifts as well so I was able to get to a lower gear for corners, so I wasn't simply floating through the corners.

    anyone have info in what toe and camber setting is set for stock? I'm quite keen to get tyres then coilovers for it and then a semi aggressive wheel alignment for it now.

    it's such a shame the car's so heavy........around 1600kg.........we'd be in business if it was around 1400kg : ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterZero View Post
    Anyone done a direct comparison of the CL9 and the CU2? Differences? Similarities?

    - HZ
    I've driven both and the stock CU2 has sharper steering (faster steering rack) and less roll through corners but feels much heavier and physically larger than the CL9. The dampers are also more comfortable and compliant.

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