NEW 2009 Euro Luxury Auto Pinging

[buddah51au]

if and when we have a meet can someone kindly let me sit in their car that has the PING. very curious as to what this sounds like now that the thread has gone just shy of 100 pg's.

Car just picked up.........can't wait to run in the brake pads and clutch.

Then it's off to wiseman's ferry run sunday morning.

As your in the right area I would suggest a return trip up the Putty Rd to Bulga, have a rest stop there, the return. It's a much better Rd to run a car in & plenty of areas to explore the 4000 to 5000RPM area (once the engine is hot of course) where you will find The engine comes on strong.

[SPQR]

Is that right??

Has HA officially changed the fuel specification for the CU2 or is it jut a rumor?

If HA have in fact changed the fuel specifications for the CU2 I would have expected them to communicate this to all the owner of the car.

Can anybody confirm that the fuel specification has now changed to 98RON only?

As of 1 minute ago, the Honda website still specifies 95 R.O.N. Unleaded Petrol for the Euro.

No one should criticise the CU2 or HA and those that dare obviously don't have a clue and so shouldn't be posting in the "NEW 2009 Euro Luxury Auto Pinging" thread despite the title of the thread.

[MKI4EVA]

anyone noticed roughly how many k's they did before the brakes bedded in?

200km so far and brakes initial bite is not so firm n bitty.

[e2xodus]

hi guys.

I left my car with larke hoskin roseberry today for the pinging fix after complaining about the pinging sound at low rpm accelerations during my 12 month service last week. Wrote to HA no reply whatsoever though. Thankfully the guys at my dealership is quick to respond to my problem. According to the service guy here are the list of fixes,

1. manifold seals replaced
2. knock sensor upgrade
3. ecu software upgrade

I am glad to report that I do not hear any pinging sound after tested the car at low and high rpm conditions, so far so good anyway. The car feels a little more responsive too (butt dyno tested) The transmission seems to shift gears better now too.

cheers

[euromax]

Took my car in to Capital Honda Canberra for 40,000 kms service and they told me that they will do a warranty fix as per their bulletin for the so call pinging issue. Btw I have never heard the pinging before ever since I had the car new. The service guy there says they detect it though. Anyway the patch was done (supposedly some computer knock up sensors) and it felt no different than before patch.

Guess I'm one of the lucky ones without the pinging problem and nevertheless had the patch applied.

[buddah51au]

Hmmm....I guess you meant to say, [although the pinging was evident and detected by the Honda Dealer, you didn't hear it in 40,000kms of driving].

Look, I don't need to add any more of my thoughts to this issue. Suffice to say what I said before - according HA, "this is a characteristic of the car" and "most people wouldn't hear it".
I rest my case.

And I don't need to repeat my previous comments.

[buddah51au]

If the fix is as simple as redoing the SW upgrade in the specified manner, why doesn't HA do this and clear up this issue?

There are two of us on this forum who have had their cars looked at by HA service a second time and these mechanics are well aware of the issue and SW update procedure. I made sure of that the last time I had my car checked.
The problem was captured by the Service Dept and HA were sent a snapshot of the problem. HONDA AUSTRALIA STATED THAT THIS IS A CHARACTERISTIC OF THE CAR.
I can't put it any simpler than that!

It is no longer a characteristic of my vehicle, or many others that I know of. I have tried everything possible to re-produce the problem without success.

[Euro_CU2]

hi guys.

I left my car with larke hoskin roseberry today for the pinging fix after complaining about the pinging sound at low rpm accelerations during my 12 month service last week. Wrote to HA no reply whatsoever though. Thankfully the guys at my dealership is quick to respond to my problem. According to the service guy here are the list of fixes,

1. manifold seals replaced
2. knock sensor upgrade
3. ecu software upgrade

I am glad to report that I do not hear any pinging sound after tested the car at low and high rpm conditions, so far so good anyway. The car feels a little more responsive too (butt dyno tested) The transmission seems to shift gears better now too.

cheers

Larke Hoskins for my service and for them to fix my pinging as well. No issues with mine since at low, mid and high RPM.

I am happy the issue is finally gone. just a bit upset as the car had some slight scratches after getting the car back... *!&@#

[aaronng]

If the fix is as simple as redoing the SW upgrade in the specified manner, why doesn't HA do this and clear up this issue?

There are two of us on this forum who have had their cars looked at by HA service a second time and these mechanics are well aware of the issue and SW update procedure. I made sure of that the last time I had my car checked.
The problem was captured by the Service Dept and HA were sent a snapshot of the problem. HONDA AUSTRALIA STATED THAT THIS IS A CHARACTERISTIC OF THE CAR.
I can't put it any simpler than that!

Something must have changed between the time you complained and now, because in addition to a software update, there is a hardware update for the sensor too. If there has been a hardware update, that means someone at Honda Japan has taken this problem seriously and gone to find a fix for it.

hi guys.

I left my car with larke hoskin roseberry today for the pinging fix after complaining about the pinging sound at low rpm accelerations during my 12 month service last week. Wrote to HA no reply whatsoever though. Thankfully the guys at my dealership is quick to respond to my problem. According to the service guy here are the list of fixes,

1. manifold seals replaced
2. knock sensor upgrade
3. ecu software upgrade

[bk212]

It is no longer a characteristic of my vehicle, or many others that I know of. I have tried everything possible to re-produce the problem without success.

Hey Buddah, have read with interest all your comments on here which I have found most helpful. My car still pings after having the fix applied. I queried with the service manager and he said it was done by him and his head service technician, 100% according to instructions, all in the right order. They did this because this is my second CU2 and both had the problem, so they were keen to get the second one sorted out for me as I raised the issue straight after delivery.

They are now saying it is probably the heat, or the specific driving conditions, or the fuel...blah blah blah. Anyway I have given up trying to get anything done about it, but will be trading this car in earlier than I otherwise would have because it's just not fun to drive with the constant noise. All other aspects of the car I love, but unfortunately in my case the pinging is just such a big negative that it outweighs them.

Cheers.

[bk212]

^^^^ I should have added, the ping was not there straight after the fix, but has gradually re-presented over time. It's getting progressively worse, I am now at 11,000km.

[twing]

Like BK, I am now sick of this problem and consider my car to be a LEMON

Anyone want's to buy a Euro as I am thinking of trading this Lemon in for a VW or Audi.

Hi Irving,

It's a horrible feeling to have spent a big sum of $$$ but getting a dud one.

Just a piece of advice, you will be more dissappointed to get VW or Audi.
Their direct injection engine has been plagued by carbon build up. So far the info I got is from US forums.
Google 'direct injection carbon build up'.