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26-01-2010 12:49 AM
#1069
 Originally Posted by Irving
This is how little HA knows about this problem!
It's not the heat or the driving conditions. It's more likely to be the fuel as the pinging increases as the fuel gets a little old (more than a week or two). This engine/car should be tested to perform well in Australian conditions.
Don't blame the heat or fuel or whatever. HA are you listening?
I don't think this is a feature or something that has affected everyone. I don't even think that it effected everyone from a particular build date. It certainly doesn't care about transmission.
The car is certainly not a lemon!!!
Are you kidding me????
It F%^k&*g sucks that your car is sh1T!
I am willing to sign my name to a petition for you to get a NEW replacement car and go on ACA!
From what I have read about your tribulations I care!
I do agree with Buddah, and yes my car hasn't had a problem that you have described. BUT, it's a HONDA and you should NOT have to PUT UP WITH THIS!
I'm more than happy to help you if I can.
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26-01-2010 02:39 PM
#1070
Hi guys,
I just visited HOnda usa site, the normal accord starting price is 21000us$ but the acura starting price is 29310. there is a huge price gap between accord and acura, while here in AUstralia there is not that much price difference between accord and accord euro..
May be Honda needs to remanufacture the engine again.
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26-01-2010 04:08 PM
#1071
Hi All,
May I know where can I get a pdf copy of the TSB that states the corrective action required to fix "Engine Pings During Moderate to Heavy Acceleration"; Acura has the TSB b09-041 to fix this issue?
Thanks in advance.
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27-01-2010 03:30 AM
#1072
 Originally Posted by autoglymer
Hi All,
May I know where can I get a pdf copy of the TSB that states the corrective action required to fix "Engine Pings During Moderate to Heavy Acceleration"; Acura has the TSB b09-041 to fix this issue?
Thanks in advance.
PM me your email addy and I'll fwd it to you.
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27-01-2010 12:08 PM
#1073
 Originally Posted by lingamair
PM me your email addy and I'll fwd it to you.
Do u mean that u have the TSB for Honda Accord Euro from Honda Australia? I have the TSB for Acura TSX already.
Last edited by autoglymer; 27-01-2010 at 03:16 PM.
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28-01-2010 02:13 AM
#1074
 Originally Posted by autoglymer
Do u mean that u have the TSB for Honda Accord Euro from Honda Australia? I have the TSB for Acura TSX already.
Apologies, thought you were looking for the Acura one.
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28-01-2010 06:41 AM
#1075
 Originally Posted by Irving
Here is an extract from the Lemon Law Guide according to www.carlemon.com which applies to USA.
What is a Lemon?
A vehicle that continues to have a defect that substantially impairs its use, value, or safety. Generally, if the car has been repaired 4 or more times for the same Defect within the Warranty Period and the Defect has not been fixed, the car qualifies as a Lemon. All States differ so you should consult the Lemon Law Summary and the State Statutes for your particular State. Note that the warranty period may or may not coincide with the Manufacturer's Warranty.
Now, I would say that my Euro satisfies the first two items that is defined in the above clause. May I add that the Dealer says that there is nothing more he can do to fix the problem and that “it is a characteristic of the car”.
Agree, I'm also the proud owner of a wheels lemon as most of you are aware. HA have used every excuse under the sun imaginable to mankind regarding this issue, ie fuel, heat etc rather than coming up with a proper fix instead of a patch job which purely minimises the noise. This is a cheap fix because obviously the proper fix is far too costly.
I too will be getting rid of this lemon shortly as I can't live with a car that almost cost me $50K which pings. But hey according to HA I'm the only one complaining. Funny that they have had the same issue in other countries and there are several of us here. I must be imagining all of this.
They have been nothing short of pathetic to deal with from the outset and as I have said before, I'll never buy Honda again. Not after this experience. I just hope that the majority of you don't have to go thru this experience.
Oh and the Dep't of fair Trading as well as the ACCC have been useful as you know what on a bull.
Hope HA is reading this because I reckon they have caused themselves a fair bit of brand damage.
It's a Lemon and no one can convince me otherwise!
In the interim, you may want to open all the windows whilst driving and turn up the volume on your radio full blast so that you can't hear the pinging. Just a suggestion! Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
But hey what do I know, I'm imagining all of this.
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28-01-2010 09:04 AM
#1076
It's too bloody hot to open windows in this area, A/C is always on & I rarely have the radio on
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29-01-2010 12:12 AM
#1077
Wow, you are so negative!
I don't want to get on your hate list, but, the car is awesome! For me and most of the owners. All I can say after reading all the post's, and there are so many, is that you got a car that didn't live up to your expectations.
I still don't know what a 2008 model to 2009 model HONDA ACCORD EURO (capitals for search engines) sounds like.
They, HONDA, have sold thousands of these cars!
People only seem to come to these forums to complain or mod their cars. So if we count the complainers that would be a very small number of affected cars!
My logic is based on:
1. People that have not had a problem, probably don't complain
2. People that have had a problem, but don't know how to complain
3. People that have had a problem and have complained to their dealer
4. People that have a problem and know how to use the internet
So if I haven't covered anything logic wise please elucidate me.
The car, IMO, is great. You can't talk for everyone. You speak like the car is shit and dangerous. What a joke!
You're just having a whinge.
I await my reply.
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29-01-2010 12:17 AM
#1078
Yup, i'm with CU2 Euro 09 and Buddah51. Haven't heard it since the fix and it was hardly noticeable before then anyway. Aside from that no problems with the car - build quality great, ride and comfort too.
Only thing i would want is more power but hey, how can i complain since its by far the best value car in and around its price range imo.
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29-01-2010 06:55 AM
#1079
 Originally Posted by CU2 Euro 09
Wow, you are so negative!
I don't want to get on your hate list, but, the car is awesome! For me and most of the owners. All I can say after reading all the post's, and there are so many, is that you got a car that didn't live up to your expectations.
I still don't know what a 2008 model to 2009 model HONDA ACCORD EURO (capitals for search engines) sounds like.
They, HONDA, have sold thousands of these cars!
People only seem to come to these forums to complain or mod their cars. So if we count the complainers that would be a very small number of affected cars!
My logic is based on:
1. People that have not had a problem, probably don't complain
2. People that have had a problem, but don't know how to complain
3. People that have had a problem and have complained to their dealer
4. People that have a problem and know how to use the internet
So if I haven't covered anything logic wise please elucidate me.
The car, IMO, is great. You can't talk for everyone. You speak like the car is shit and dangerous. What a joke!
You're just having a whinge.
I await my reply.
I am with you 100% on those comments, Couldn't have said it better.
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29-01-2010 08:14 AM
#1080
hmmm maybe it picked up more often on Auto's because the gearbox generally selects a higher gear when cruising........
this is getting insane.........I think I'd rather not try to find out if I had it or not.
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