NEW 2009 Euro Luxury Auto Pinging

[denot]

Well, If it isn't a case of "Bugger the rest of you, I'm allright thanks Jack Gee...."

FYI here is another complaint http://www.2carpros.com/forum/2009-a...-vt250219.html

Posted at Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:16 am
By aubird93, New to the forum
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Engine Mechanical problem
2009 Acura TSX 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 2526 miles

I bought a brand new 2009 TSX and noticed a very slight knocking in the engine between 2300-2500 rpm. Sounds like it is coming from the right side, deep in the engine. This started around 2300 miles (when I noticed it anyway.) It occurs when going up a hill or on a strait-a-way. Can't hear it unless radio, heat/air is off. Got on the computer and researched it to see if anybody else is having the problem; they are. Even in Austrailia and Europe, people are noticing this under the exact same conditions. Acura is saying it is "characteristic" of the engine and are "looking into it" with their engineers at the moment. I have always used premium 93 fuel, so gas is not the problem. Does this sound like something that will get worse? I am considering trading it immediately, but will hold on if I feel like it is something simple that can be adjusted via a recall.

Thanks for your input

That posted last year before the fix released. Do you have recent one after his got fixed?

NOTE: oh man, why do I want to get involved with this thread again?

[buddah51au]

Well, If it isn't a case of "Bugger the rest of you, I'm allright thanks Jack Gee...."

FYI here is another complaint http://www.2carpros.com/forum/2009-a...-vt250219.html

Posted at Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:16 am
By aubird93, New to the forum
Give Feedback | Votes: 0
Engine Mechanical problem
2009 Acura TSX 4 cyl Front Wheel Drive Automatic 2526 miles

I bought a brand new 2009 TSX and noticed a very slight knocking in the engine between 2300-2500 rpm. Sounds like it is coming from the right side, deep in the engine. This started around 2300 miles (when I noticed it anyway.) It occurs when going up a hill or on a strait-a-way. Can't hear it unless radio, heat/air is off. Got on the computer and researched it to see if anybody else is having the problem; they are. Even in Austrailia and Europe, people are noticing this under the exact same conditions. Acura is saying it is "characteristic" of the engine and are "looking into it" with their engineers at the moment. I have always used premium 93 fuel, so gas is not the problem. Does this sound like something that will get worse? I am considering trading it immediately, but will hold on if I feel like it is something simple that can be adjusted via a recall.

Thanks for your input

It's all well & good to repost 1 response from the TSX forum that suits you, but overall there are more people on that forum that are happy with the results achieved post software/knock sensor update in comparison to those who share your views.

There is an old saying in the trade, people who tend to be the biggest complainants spend 20K to 60K on a car and expect Rolls Royce/Bently quality for their money. THAT WILL NEVER BE THE CASE. Besides,, those cars still have thier problems as well.

I know have almost 27000km on my CU2 Auto & couldn't be happier. Apart from the pinging problem - which was very minor & rectified at around 14,000km, I have had zero other problems & don't expect any.

[bk212]

Like I said before:
"Bugger the rest of you, I'm allright thanks Jack Gee...."

I agree with this 100%. I'm glad for those whose cars aren't affected, but a lot are. I agree that feature-wise nothing competes, but guess what? Pinging wise, the CU2 is in a class of its own too. If your car is fine, good for you, but don't tell me what a great car mine is when every time I get behind the wheel it sounds like a tin of marbles is rattling around under the hood.

[buddah51au]

I would like to ask one simple question from the owners who had the problem, winged and carried on until it got fixed and are now apathetic.

Will you put up with this ongoing pinging issue if you were still effected???? I think not. So, don't tell me to put up with it because "it's not a ROLLS ROYCE"!!!!

If I still had the pinging problem with my CU2 it would not alter my views as it was so minor & intermittent It was hardly worth mentioning.

[buddah51au]

QUOTE FROM IRVING:- I can't see what you are complaining about. It's just a bit of Glad Wrap come undone. Put a bit of sticky tape over it and youu won't even see it.

I guess you should get some super glue & apply it to some ear plugs before fitting them. You would not hear the problem then.

And by the way, I never winged and carried on at all when I had the problem, there ia no need to take that approach when you have a good relationship with your dealer as it alters their view towards you as an individual.

[twing]

btw Irving:
My mate has a 'lemon' motor bike. He then took the story to 'Current Affair' and managed to get the matter solved. He returned the bike and get 'partial refund'.

Just an idea to channel all the anger.

[buddah51au]

Well, let's NOT pretend that the problem does not exist.

Let's also try not to sweep it under the carpet by saying "it's not a Rolls Royce" & "I have seen cars with worse problems".

This is a major problem in my car and I am very concerned. It's MY Rolls Royce.

Do you get it?

Regardless of problems we have with our individual cars, forums such as this are not the place for personal attacks. I always try to post informed comments that I know to be correct. You on the other hand turn forums such as this into a circus.

[tony1234]

For those who still have the pinging after 1 or more fixes there's no point in giving the Honda service guys a hard time over it.Remember you are relying on these guys to help you.You need to be civil to them as their hands are tied.they can only do so much.Also remember if you are firm but reasonable they are more likely to go out of their way to help you.Put yourself in their shoes.If you had a guy come ranting and raving at you how would you treat him in return?

[buddah51au]

I will give advice when & where I feel appropriate & i don't appreciate your personal attacks. If you can't try to be subjective when posting, don't post.

You have shown your true colours with your recent posts on Vetureshield Clear bra which indicates to me the type of person you are, so please refrain from posting to me in future.

I just wish the moderators would do their job with clowns.

[praja6]

Hi Guys,

I would advise you all that dont argue here or personally attacking each others. Its understandable the brand new car bought with more than $35k from hard earning money giving trouble immediately would make the person upset.

I am not a mechanic, but how come for some people after the few times applied the pinging issue patch by the dealer the pinging noise totally disappear and for some it still there.
May be Honda Japan should consider this issue.

Again this forum is very helpful with getting all sort of ideas about individual experience with Euro.

Keep it up

Thanks

[buddah51au]

Hi Guys,

I would advise you all that dont argue here or personally attacking each others. Its understandable the brand new car bought with more than $35k from hard earning money giving trouble immediately would make the person upset.

I am not a mechanic, but how come for some people after the few times applied the pinging issue patch by the dealer the pinging noise totally disappear and for some it still there.
May be Honda Japan should consider this issue.

Again this forum is very helpful with getting all sort of ideas about individual experience with Euro.

Keep it up

Thanks

I totally agree with your comments. these forums should not be used for personal attacks. Each and every one of us would like more car for our money than we get, but unfortunately cars are built to a price mostly by robots & machines with very little human intervention along the way, which means there will be problems. Even exotic cars which have more human input during construction have problems, some serious, some not so.

It Matters little if we spend 13k on a Kia or $1M on a Rolls Royce, there will be issues with all cars of varying degrees.

Like Humans some live a long healthy life with no problems while others leave this world at a very young age for no apparent reason.

In this modern era we must be honest and admit to ourselves that a honda accord is an upmarket budget car, nothing more. Just look at How much extra car we get for our money these days, a base model CU2 can be had for around 37K, yet a new CD5 accord VTI in 1994 was a little over 42K. So in real terms the current Euro is a big step ahead for a lot less money in real terms.

If & when we have a problem with our cars we seek help from the Dealer where we brought the car, yet to a certain extent their hands are tied in regards to what they are allowed to do by the supplier of the cars, in our case Honda Australia. Yet in turn Honda Australia's hands are tied even tighter than a dealership as they are strictly importers & distributors of a product & therefore need approval from the Parent Company Being Honda Japan Before they can recommend or do anything.

A car is a car, a mechanical device, sometimes they can give problems.

We as consumers need to understand that there is no such thing as a perfect car, like anything else in this world, nothing is perfect.

[praja6]

Hi,

Just a questions, Does Honda Australia gave you the life time assurance for the engine for all you had affected with pinging issue

My friend had a Brand new Honda CRV and after having the car for 2months the oil started leaking from the engine. Honda dealer fixed that and again after 7months oil started leaking. Just couple of months ago Honda dealer replaced with a brand new engine imported from Japan or THailand. He is very happy with the car now..

Just curiously is there any chances might be Honda AUstralia may replace with the new engine for Euro if the pinging issue hasn't been resolved after the path applied more than twice..