DC2 or DC5

**ginganggooly** · 04-01-2004 01:24 PM

btw, the s15 is better than both, so ner :P

**civicboy** · 04-01-2004 01:26 PM

& DC5-R is quicker than DC2-R!

hehehehehe

**Xenon** · 04-01-2004 04:33 PM

Umm in what way is the s15 better?? Straightline only?

It seems that ppl like to bag out dc5r because it isnt jdm spec..well the dc2r is not quite jdm spec either but nobody says anything.. how about the wrx, s15 etc..

One of the biggest complaint is that the dc5r didnt come with brembos..so what? IMO brembo are good brakes, but there are a lot better ones too,. Also Dc2r never came with brembos either..

Having driven both cars, and owning a dc5r, i would choose the dc5r if i had the choice again... The dc2r is an excellent track car with good power and handling, however is quite harsh on the road which i spent 99% of my time driving..

The dc5r was not built to be an all-out track weapon as the dc2r and combines the quality and comfort of a road car with some of the performance ability of a race car. People can make up their own minds to what they prefer.....

My 2 cents..

**Tofu** · 04-01-2004 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Xenon

ARe u sure that the dc5r uses calipers and discs from EP3? Where did u get this information from?

I was under the impression that aus dc5r ended up using same brakes as used on s2000..

But yeah, too bad we didnt get the brembos..however there are plenty of aftermarkets systems to choose from

sorry..my bad..only discs, caliper size is same as s2000
Centrax Auto in brisbane are ENDLESS dealers in Australia
they got endless japan to make mini 6 pot caliper system to fit the aus dc5r and endless japan said it's the same measurement and dimentions as the EP3R

**ginganggooly** · 04-01-2004 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Xenon

Umm in what way is the s15 better?? Straightline only?

it's rwd, it'll going to be cheaper to get an extra ~50kw out of it, it does have more outright performance potential (which goes back to it being rwd).

**Tofu** · 04-01-2004 05:15 PM

just go and test drive both
then make sure you really love it
then think about mods later on

**olda** · 04-01-2004 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by spite

My point is that those are relatively mute points. They are personal opinion, and nothing else.

DC5 has a new car warranty, DC2 doesn't.
DC5 comes with newer styling (like it or not), ones from 1994.
DC5 is cheaper to insure.
DC5 has more interior space.
DC5 uses marginally less petrol.
DC5 has more sound deading in cabin, better for sound. (This is useless with aftermarket zorst/intake

)
DC5 has an alarm/immobiliser already.
DC5 has better aftermarket potential.

If none of the above are important .... then just personal opinion

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If you can afford it, I would go for the DC5. I have spent considerable time in both and I can tell you personally DC5 is the one for me. There's a whole list of things better in the DC5 that are often overlooked because people are too busy saying 'we got the shit one'.

Originally Posted by olda

Not t/b forgotten!!!!
Double wishbone suspension front & rear on DC2R! :P
Only cooking Mc Pherson's struts on DC5R

Does this mean a BMW M3/M5 is shit too?

DC2 is a more performance orientated car out of the box but we're all going to mod it right? :P

BMW would love to have a double wishbone suspension on M3's & M5's.
It would make the chassis a much more driver "communicative".
Unfortunately BMW had the basic chassis design "locked in" well before the M3/M5 twins were thought of. And once the underbody is "signed off", nothing can be done.
So M3/M5 suspension is by no means a shit, but very much a compromise. 8) 8) 8)

**dc2r** · 05-01-2004 12:45 PM

Hey the dc5r isn't quicker than a dc2r...
And if you check the cornering speed of a Type-R compared to the S15, guess who has a higher cornering speed around the track? So how is the S15 better?? Just because it's RWD, doesn't mean it's better. I'm sure Honda could have made the Type-R a RWD if they wanted (like the S2000 and NSX). How many FWD cars do you know that can out-perform a RWD?
Anyway, it's off topic. I just had to get that out. I forgot who posted this thread, but go and test drive both and then get back to us when you've bought your car, and let us know which one you liked better. Cool?

**olda** · 05-01-2004 01:17 PM

I drove 2 DC5 R's before buying DC2 R.

Likes - DC5 R 6sp g/b, e/g torque, front end styling
- DC2 R steering, handling, brakes, gear shift, mechanical noise, o'all styling,

Dislikes - DC5R Steering, handling, o'all styling - (too narrow and too tall)
- DC2R would prefer 6sp g/b and a 2 lt engine.

Here's my 2c worth! 8)

**ginganggooly** · 05-01-2004 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by dc2r

Hey the dc5r isn't quicker than a dc2r...
And if you check the cornering speed of a Type-R compared to the S15, guess who has a higher cornering speed around the track? So how is the S15 better?? Just because it's RWD, doesn't mean it's better.

:roll:
i've already listed the reasons for why i think it's better performance proposition. do you really want me to repeat the post?

personally, i'd pick a dc2r over an s13/14/15. purely because i like the car and i feel it's what i'm after in that kind of car. makes the right noises, handles well enough and looks decent. however, i'm not going to live in denial and talk myself into thinking the dc2r is a better performance car than an s15- it just isn't the case.

**Jim80y** · 05-01-2004 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by spite

Does this mean a BMW M3/M5 is shit too?

Struts aren't such a problem on the front suspension when the power is being sent to the rear wheels. In a FWD car, now you have problems

Love the DC5 for looks, engine and interior; but handling wise DC2 all the way. DC5 for street and DC2 for track. Comes to personal priorities I guess.

S15s aren't so bad just need a better suspension set up.