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							everything stays on track or WSID
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	nah doode no street racing for me lols, just simple daily drive that feels hella good
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by MikeyG   it was a b20vtec, i did take on turbos. eg 180sx, 200sx, wrx i beat them all i did take on a sti though it snapped me lol but i suggest you staying with your engine and dont street race casue if you do and you will get caught you will lose it big time like myself, 3 years  
 cos to be quite honest I feel like a snail at times with b16
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							any day of the week, your talking about boosted vs N/A, in a straight line n/a generally will not have a chance
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by lsvtec   Stock ek motor with a t28?
 I dont think that would beat a eg b18cr
 H22 is prob the cheapest option. All conversions there is ability to keep a/c. You just need to work around it.
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							question:a stock b18cr, would a b16a2 be able to beat it with camwork, headwork, boltons and that infamous spoon black blade for the block?
 
 just asking, b16a2 seems to be very very popular im just thinking no way is the b16's potential cut short by b18cr stock...
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							Far too many variables to say, you need to be more specific rather than just "camwork/headwork/boltons". One variation of that combination compared to another could be a competely different beast, plus you have to take the gearbox into account.The stock gearbox usually accompanying a B18CR has vastly better ratios + final drive + LSD compared to a B16A2.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	ive done it before, a major fact is the driver of the car also, yes alot of ppl say b16a's arent that much fun but when you have a jap spec b16a with internal work you love it due to the beautiful sound of the cross over, that you will not get as much in a b18cr, i say this with confidence because ive driven many b20's many b18cr but the vtec crossover is not nearlly as good as the b16a's, wells thats my 2 cents anyways
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cheapdouchebag   question:a stock b18cr, would a b16a2 be able to beat it with camwork, headwork, boltons and that infamous spoon black blade for the block?
 
 just asking, b16a2 seems to be very very popular im just thinking no way is the b16's potential cut short by b18cr stock...
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							coming from an em1 owner i reckon b16a is pretty good, my car is basically stock i have ripped r33's gt-t or gts easily. specially comparing arround the corners the em1 (b16a) are beautiful machines. Considering you have an ek4 your car should be faster, i think ur chasis is lesser weight then my em1. I also like my crossover i think it sounds just perfect outa my exhaust, and its very powerful. I have even raced my mates b18c1 didnt even stand a chance against my b16a2. Thats just my view after owning a few b series cars.
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							if you want to stay NA, just work your b16a, you have a good engine to start with and to replace it with say a b18 would be wasting time n money for the gains. alot of other areas you can upgrade besides the engine or bolt on's like suspension, drivetrain etc.
 i was in a similar boat as you a few yrs back.. but i choose to turbo.. have havent looked back
   
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by amant02   coming from an em1 owner i reckon b16a is pretty good, my car is basically stock i have ripped r33's gt-t or gts easily. specially comparing arround the corners the em1 (b16a) are beautiful machines. Considering you have an ek4 your car should be faster, i think ur chasis is lesser weight then my em1. I also like my crossover i think it sounds just perfect outa my exhaust, and its very powerful. I have even raced my mates b18c1 didnt even stand a chance against my b16a2. Thats just my view after owning a few b series cars. 
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							just slash the tyres on the eg b18cr...
						 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							mate you got 2 options... turbo or more displacement. no more to say on that. pick one and do it.
 
 
	my em1 b16 has ctr pistons, heavily worked head and good bolt ons. i was beaten by an em1 with jap spec b18c. now... stop asking and go research turbos or b20/h22
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by cheapdouchebag   question:a stock b18cr, would a b16a2 be able to beat it with camwork, headwork, boltons and that infamous spoon black blade for the block?
 
 just asking, b16a2 seems to be very very popular im just thinking no way is the b16's potential cut short by b18cr stock...
 or is it?
    
				
                                       
                                 
				
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