What Honda Australia says about Paint protection to new Honda

[furythree]

actually i got a question. if the paint protection is bogus, and im after something that kinda seals the paint like a layer of laquer does for timber. then what should i be looking at? invisible car bra? stone chips is not a big issue. im just sick and tired of scratches from fingernails near my door handle and the lip of the boot.

[aaronng]

actually i got a question. if the paint protection is bogus, and im after something that kinda seals the paint like a layer of laquer does for timber. then what should i be looking at? invisible car bra? stone chips is not a big issue. im just sick and tired of scratches from fingernails near my door handle and the lip of the boot.

A good synthetic sealant. I use Meg's #21. NXT Tech Wax 2.0 is pretty reasonable too.

[nickxau]

Where do you buy your detailing stuff aaron? SCA has only a small range of Meg's pro stuff, was gonna buy the #21 when they had the 20% off sale but didn't find any.

Please don't say Autobarn, please don't say Autobarn...

[aaronng]

Where do you buy your detailing stuff aaron? SCA has only a small range of Meg's pro stuff, was gonna buy the #21 when they had the 20% off sale but didn't find any.

Please don't say Autobarn, please don't say Autobarn...

I buy mine from Meguiar's in Silverwater. The address is 35 Slough Business Park, Holker Street, Silverwater NSW 2128. It is right across the road from Silverwater jail. Pricing is RRP, so they are not as cheap as SCA/Autobarn/Repco, but you can find the WHOLE range there. I even have a Meg's boot organiser for my detailing stuff. When I go to buy there, I wash my car first because they are detailers and they will check out your car from upstairs.

For the other states, I'd look at Autobarn, SCA and Repco. Not all of them have #21 because it used to be for professional detailers so they sold it in 1.9L bottles! But about 2 years ago, I saw that they sold #21 in 473ml bottles at Meguiars, so it seems that it is starting to be sold to retail end users. If you can't find #21, then use NXT Tech Wax 2.0. Version 2.0 is much better than the original and is almost like #21 but in a thicker liquid form with a nice smell. #21 smells like wet socks after soccer on a rainy day.

[tron07]

It's all crap. At Mercedes Benz we don't offer any paint protection products. Mercedes Benz use a ceramic paint which doesn't require any sealant or coating to retain it's colour. After working in dealer land for 6 years I have never heard of paint protection reducing fade. They have just sold you a car so cheap they're trying to put more money into the deal. Walk away now.



And in their T&C they also mention using only their shampoo products and returning every 12 months for reapplication at an additional cost. It's all a complete scam.

I didnt know mercs comes with ceramic sealant....

ceramic paint are way harder then the normal clear coat thus you dont really need to be bother with telfon or these paint protection stuffs. I have read that one guy was restoring his E30 BMW coupe and had his car painted and ceramic coating applied. Once it cured, the paint shop owner took the car to the detailer next door to have it polished, and the detailers underquote the time and pricing cause they didnt know how hard the ceramic coating was.


As for paint protection, if you wash and wax your car often, forget about it. but if you are those who are lazy to wash and wax, maybe just wash it every bluemoon, then paint protection is good.

[aaronng]

As for paint protection, if you wash and wax your car often, forget about it. but if you are those who are lazy to wash and wax, maybe just wash it every bluemoon, then paint protection is good.

Once, I washed my Euro after 1.5 years of driving to work and back. The car was FILTHY. However, after washing, the paint was still shiny because of the #21 sealant. In comparison, my commodore was waxed with paste wax and just after 6 months, the paint feels very dry and flakey. If you wash the car, clay and then apply a good sealant, it can last over a year if you don't wash or rub the paint with your hands or bum. The $40 bottle + effort is actually doing the same thing as the $900 paint protection (which also lasts only about 2 years)

[tron07]

I use NXT myself..... after 3.5 years, not much swirl marks on my car and never polish it before.

[HunterZero]

As for paint protection, if you wash and wax your car often, forget about it. but if you are those who are lazy to wash and wax, maybe just wash it every bluemoon, then paint protection is good.

Well - By 'paint protection', we mean a sealant you either apply yourself or pay a detailer directly to do it for you. Don't get the dealer to organise it, or it will cost you three times more than it should.

- HZ

[MZ3]

As people have said above.. Paint protection = waste of money. The $600 they claim it costs can be spent on products to protect the car for a good 5~6 years. When i bought my car 3 years ago.. the dealer pushed for all these paint protection stuff. I just denied them straight away. My friend bought the same car as me at the same time and he paid for the extra paint protection. 3 years on and its actually my car that looks alot better than his.

Do it yourself and you'll appreciate it more.

Buy a good synthetic sealant. Many on the market from Duragloss clear coat protection to Final Inspection Seal. Usually you can apply this 1/2 yearly or yearly.. and it wont cost you more than $30~$40. Obviously clay and use a paint cleaner before hand.. Possibly a 1~2 stage polish to remove any imperfections in the paintwork.

If you dont have much time to take care of your car, go with a synthetic wax to give the car a lil more protection. I probably suggest Optimum Car Wax [OCW, can be bought from Final Inspection Melb or Carcareproducts in Sydney] Easy to apply, great UV protection, Very good sheeting properties and very quick.

[MZ3]

I use NXT myself..... after 3.5 years, not much swirl marks on my car and never polish it before.

Thats because NXT wax contains fillers within the wax which actually hide the swirls on your paintwork

[Type R Positive]

Trying to tell you that paint protection stops stone chips though is blatantly dishonest. I'd be demanding to talk to a different sales manager if they tried that on me.

Yeah, that's usually the hot young chick that sells those 'protection' packs. $1000 for tint, $1000 for paint protection, $1000 for rust proofing......
They get the shits every time I say "before you start, I don't want any of your shit......"

[Type R Positive]

Thats because NXT wax contains fillers within the wax which actually hide the swirls on your paintwork

Yep, I use it to get me through to my next polish!