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					01-06-2010 09:08 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Im not sure whether people have posted about this before, but i remember someone telling me that the K20Z2 is the achilles heel off the K series engines.  
 
Has anyone ever tried putting K20Z1/3/4 blocks/heads onto the K20Z2? I thought all the K20Zs were rubbish until i youtubed them and saw that some mad as hatter EGs with K20Z1 and 3s...they seem to be comparable to K20As? (wikipedia told me that the Type S uses the K20Zs and so do the Euro Rs) 
 
If it is possible then would it not open more options for people who own FD1/2s? 
 
Sorry if this is a noob question, i havent been able to find many people who can report they have done any engine mods to their R18A1s and K20Z2s. If you know a thread please link. 
 
Thank you =)
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					01-06-2010 09:18 PM
				
			
			
				
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							^^ dont think anyone here has interchanged engine parts from other k20z engines with the k20z2.. although there is one that has had a k20z4 swapped into an fd1 
 
in other news.. someone stole my red valve caps   BUT they only took 2 of them lol. luckily they're not rays or anything expensive
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					01-06-2010 09:33 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Nairda
					 
				 
				Im not sure whether people have posted about this before, but i remember someone telling me that the K20Z2 is the achilles heel off the K series engines. 
			
		 
	 
 I don't think they're quite that bad! Low power output maybe...but drives nice and smooth with a good amount of torque.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					01-06-2010 09:43 PM
				
			
			
				
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							@ Aero  
Was it a difficult job? worth doing in an FD? or is it nothing as simple as dropping a b16A into an EG4 
 
@xenon 
I wasnt saying it was a "bad" engine....id just like a little more..excitement? For a "sport" it just seems to drive a little too smooth
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					01-06-2010 09:49 PM
				
			
			
				
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							It was me who said it was the achilles, and i said it was the Z2, you must've misread me.  
The Z1 Z3 and Z4 are awesome! 
 
You could try changing bits if u were daring...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					01-06-2010 10:24 PM
				
			
			
				
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							http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/06-09...Q5fAccessories 
 
What do you guys think of this short shifter kit? Looks comparable to the skunk2 etc...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					01-06-2010 10:25 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  curtis265
					 
				 
				It was me who said it was the achilles, and i said it was the Z2, you must've misread me.  
The Z1 Z3 and Z4 are awesome! 
 
You could try changing bits if u were daring... 
			
		 
	 
 Lol nah didnt misread you, i said the Z2 was...Not keen on that idea, dropping in a Z1 seems to be more feasible...Is the general construction for Z2 the same as the Z1/3? Except for the internals of course do the drive train, flywheel all link up the same? 
 
I guess what im trying to ask is that is it just a matter of taking a Z2 out and dropping a Z1 in
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					01-06-2010 10:26 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  curtis265
					 
				 
				
			
		 
	 
 have you tried this?  i emailed my mate that did this to one of my older cars to see what he thinks.  i never got him to do it to my last car as i was happy with teh performance, but i always remember him making the change and my car had a definite boost in performance.  even he was surprised.  i wouldn't really try it myself as I don't know much. 
 
it causes a funny idle, but don't know if the ecu in the new civics would be smart enough to adjust to the air temperature difference it causes.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					01-06-2010 11:50 PM
				
			
			
				
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							not a mod.. but you know.. i couldnt help myself hahah 
 
 
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					01-06-2010 11:57 PM
				
			
			
				
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							HECTIKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. i want one, to replace my gf. =]
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					02-06-2010 12:03 AM
				
			
			
				
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							Domo doesn't have a hole between it's legs. 
 
I have one too, but it's legs aren't sitting..
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					02-06-2010 12:57 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Nairda
					 
				 
				Im not sure whether people have posted about this before, but i remember someone telling me that the K20Z2 is the achilles heel off the K series engines.  
 
Has anyone ever tried putting K20Z1/3/4 blocks/heads onto the K20Z2? I thought all the K20Zs were rubbish until i youtubed them and saw that some mad as hatter EGs with K20Z1 and 3s...they seem to be comparable to K20As? (wikipedia told me that the Type S uses the K20Zs and so do the Euro Rs) 
 
If it is possible then would it not open more options for people who own FD1/2s? 
 
Sorry if this is a noob question, i havent been able to find many people who can report they have done any engine mods to their R18A1s and K20Z2s. If you know a thread please link. 
 
Thank you =) 
			
		 
	 
 its not as simple as slapping a new head into a fd2, compression ratios in the blocks are all different in the k20z series 
 
and also dropping a k20z4 into a fd1/2 is not cheap and it is quite difficult (i.e - ant no backyard job) 
 
dont get too ambitious into making the current 8th series civic into a power house, it is more of a family orientated car unless you have the funds ready to do so, if it was cheap and easy most of us would already be rocking with 150kw+ atw
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
		 
		
		
	
 
	
	
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
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